#Don't discontinue console

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ashen badger
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I've got to throw out there that I almost exclusively play on my console now. So if you take the game off of console then I probably won't be playing anymore at all. I don't know how many other people feel the same way. But I just can't go back to playing on my phone

white grail
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"console development and upkeep is a significant drain on the resources of our small team"
please don't make this any harder

ashen badger
white grail
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statement is clear, they financially can't support it

ashen badger
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Okay. I'm going to keep asking anyway. Thanks for the input

fallow spindle
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Not enough players also. Could have been a way to "advertise" the game more to be honest trying to get more people to play it by adding it to consoles. But probably didn't have to much success

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Its better as a mobile game imo. But was fun playing it on console

rustic lotus
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||just buy a steamdeck/s||

ashen badger
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We would get in parties everyday during WS and talk about the game and stuff. Good times

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That's what we'll be saying

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I've got one scheduled for this Monday, nobody's going to want to do it now

fallow spindle
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Add voice chat to mobile 😂

ashen badger
fallen tendon
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I'm sure it was a difficult decision for the dev team, but they plainly cannot afford to keep HS on consoles and update the game regularly. And they chose the lesser of the bad things.

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onyx ingot
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you may want to hold your tears for this one.....
The harsh truth about the game is that its declining on almost all metrics, on all platforms.

ashen badger
onyx ingot
# ashen badger

I know its quite an unique experience to play on xbox vs the other platforms. One of my corpmates who joined the game before it was on console, quit for long, and came back just to play hours, on xbox.

Optimistically, none of the game mechanics falter, and you can still enjoy the same basic thing on mobile or PC.

Last time I was in this suggestions channel we had 144 upvotes on WS rewards, the reply wasnt even "ok guys, we politely refuse" or "this is good but cannot implement.." we got "WS players a minority of the player-base and the game is meant to be as is"

and I guess, the dev puts expert analysis over the first thoughts of players /j

ashen badger
rotund tinsel
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Lol. Nobody on xbox has completed it because they made it so grindy that between release and now, no one has had a chance to finish it even after thousands of hours invested. The current xbox leader is still missing 9 achievements. Yeah. Not following this game to another platform and not touching anything parallel space releases in the future. Unbelievable.

onyx ingot
# rotund tinsel Lol. Nobody on xbox has completed it because they made it so grindy that between...

Completely fair ngl. Need more people like you in the game... People willing to leave over bad changes.

the grindy part is a different part, mobile players have the same problem. The problem is - they have little content, for massive time. Any, game, like ever has more content in a shorter timespread.

and I think its fair for people to complain when you have a game this meagre in content over time, and you stretch it out to 3-5 years, but you cannot even ensure that it will keep running that long on a platform.

But hey, I dont like what theyre doing just as much, but I still play ngl.

soft mural
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The game simply needs patience and dedication. If you just leave it, that'd just collapse it further

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Just find something you like
PVP? Bls just got better to an extent, and we have WS
PVE? RS
Just chill? RS and YS

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Just casual gaming can support it
Once every three days is enough

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In my opinion at least

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What makes it better is the corps . Find a great one, and now you have a brotherhood

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Yes it isn't perfect, but nothing is

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One just gotta have enough faith

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Who knows, maybe in time this change can be reverted

rotund tinsel
# soft mural The game simply needs patience and dedication. If you just leave it, that'd just...

Platform matters. Xbox is my primary platform. I enjoy it. I'm too entrenched in the ecosystem to switch now as my xbox library is ~7k games. And i'm not going to continue a grind fest that no longer even counts on my platform of choice. The same way I wouldn't expect a steam user to buy a console or play on their phone if it was the steam version shutting down.

They can absolutely cut platforms off. Thats their decision. But thinking people are going to follow you out the door is unrealistic. There are tons of other games out there and this one isn't worth the time investment anymore, especially if it's outside of the ecosystem i've put 17 years into. Platform hopping just isn't something most people do and even then, it's if the game is really special. Sadly, this one isn't.

soft mural
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Just kinda sad that I'm seeing a game like this that I like die out

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As said before, you never know when they change their mind

hallow walrus
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Well its definitely closing now. Once the post is out they dont change their minds

soft mural
hallow walrus
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Best to hope for would be continued xbox support through mobile because the issue sounds like they dont want to work on multiple versons of the same game for different platforms

rotund tinsel
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If they change their mind, I'll come back. Playing on xbox, or any part of the LIVE network (like the microsoft windows store, provided it be linked to the existing xbox sku so I didn't have to start over with a fresh game/achievement progress) would be the only way.

But ive only ever seen one game change their mind, and that was the culling 2. And it maybe lasted a month or two when it came back before they killed it again. Its gone, man.

soft mural
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🤷‍♂️

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It's not impossible, just improbable soon

hallow walrus
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The accounts can already be linked i did mine way back to play on the go. Achievements just dont unlock rn unless you login to the xbox version

rotund tinsel
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That would work for me.

soft mural
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Then the smart play would be allowing achievements

hallow walrus
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I think so. Thats a lot of the reason i see myself and several friends playing games on xbox

rotund tinsel
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True. But that seems even more unlikely. I dont see them integrating it.

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I'm not sure how hard it is adding in xbox integration to the games framework on another platform. Doing so after the game is already made may be way too difficult. Even then, steam integration was through games for windows live, which is pretty much dead unless the user jumps through a bunch of hoops on their pc. Android integration might be the only feasible way, like forza street did. But that was an in-house title for microsoft that has infinitely more money than parallel space.

hallow walrus
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Well unfortunalely thats their choice to make. Go back on their decision and continue updating the 2 versions they dont want to keep open, change the versions theyre keeping open to keep people happy, or ignore them and lose the players who wont switch console for this game

rotund tinsel
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Yeah. Its not going to happen. But its fun to imagine.

fallow spindle
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Just get a tablet and connect your Xbox controller to it. Idk if mobile has controller support though 😪

onyx ingot
# soft mural Just find something you like PVP? Bls just got better to an extent, and we have ...

BLS as a whole is problematic, we've had a discussion in #general
Well yes, the game is perfect in the sense that it has all of pvp, pve, team-wide and solo. But come on, that isnt competitive to other games.

  • all modes have significant flaws and repetitiveness leading to burnouts and quits
  • the games content:time ratio is incredibly bad.
  • Dev engagement and new features to retain players is like existent, but done in the wrongest way.

Summing up the last couple years, we've had little upkeep since DN, major changes in DN always needed an afterlog of updates that didnt come. Going back, we had incredible dispopularity over DN changes in the base, so like 30-50% of all players quit over the development of DN. After DN we had a side-hop of resources into the new space combat game thing. Before DN, we had battleship apollo - battle royale, modular pvp, the most unique mode in hades /s.

In wider trends, instead of settling into the social and WS niche of hs, bls and rs were always prioritized and WS players considered a 'minority' and can we talk about BLS board, steamcharts and ws api all indicating stagnation to whats now, pre dn levels? it seems?

So in short : just because its playable for some people, doesnt mean the game is in any good state, The repetitiveness and lack of content and lack of updates has continuously gotten people to leave and the supermajority of newbies quit the game before RS5 and its frustrating for a majority of older players as well.

Just because its playable, doesnt mean its good or even ok

desert river
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I love this game and all it has and most of all i love the comradery that is game presents... But it is undeniable that the game is sadly... Dieing and there is nothing we can do about it

onyx ingot
soft mural
# onyx ingot BLS as a whole is problematic, we've had a discussion in <#255083954036670464> ...

Well yeah, I can acknowledge that, and yes the game is dying, but that doesn't mean we can't create our own fun out of it
Yes, the game is far from perfect, but it does have it's upsides: the corps that are brotherhoods, the ws battles that are satisfying to win, that one in a thousand moment of beating a significantly higher level player, or finally getting a lvl 14 mod, etc
If you over focus on the negatives, you'll overlook the positives (doesn't mean you ignore them. Just means that we should look at both sides of the coin before judging it)

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And in this game, you can always try something new. A new build, a new strategy, a new personal record, so on

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For me, the way I look at it: play with the best, hope for the best, but acknowledge both the best and worst

onyx ingot
# soft mural Well yeah, I can acknowledge that, and yes the game is dying, but that doesn't m...

when you say "The game simply needs patience and dedication" it at least comes off to some of us as if the game doesnt have fundamental issues or anything, rather its our own perception and playstyles.

If you acknowledge, that the game has core issues, that are bad for everyone and its declining, then we're on the same page.

and talking about both sides, Im like of course - thats why Im still here. But compared to another say mobile or cross platform game of the same level, its like not a contest. Its not 50/50, more like 20/80 and thats what I brought up.

soft mural
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Oh well. Time will tell where this game is headed

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Like I had said: hope for the best, but acknowledge both good and bad

ashen badger
white grail
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pls recycle the console part for pc

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hidden moth
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Servers are now down, and they didn't even help or support a majority of the players. Most emails were left without a response for a week and still waiting on a reply. I really hope they are going to help the rest of us unlock the Xbox achievements for free like they did for others.

fallow spindle