#Social Issues

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coarse topaz
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running on steam numbers we have 1/5th of the player base that we used to and will go below 100 average concurrent players by end of the year... BLS experiment has the same trend and WS api is just a bit stagnant, probably due to the permanence of its playerbase.

Returning from a long break, I experience several minutes more than usual for red star and blue star scans. Finding it harder to find people to play with, seeing less newbies on HSO and other servers and so on... and in general, I've observed shortages of activity in many parts of the community.

One of the biggest cause : social connectivity - players are less attached to the game and all but about 10% quit even after months of playing, and I think social, is the core of the game.

the only reason I, and many players alike play still is the social aspect and I will play till the second the servers are not, and I am not alone in that sentiment.

Main point: Thinking about it, a lot of functions that supported corp interactions are gone now, dont get paid for ws anymore so no reason to join for game progress beyond entertainment, corp bonus isnt relevant, rs you either make a friend to duo or just join a pub queue instead, most events are either solo or extremely encourages you to play solo (so-called "corp" rs event)
also trading/passing arts as a whole
A better future I see is

  • bringing features relating to social interaction back
  • cosmetic rewards for the corp itself
  • increasing the importance of corp rewards
  • more, more corp based events
    I may add more suggestions from this thread but theres a lot more that can be done for sure

Now bottom line - Im well aware of our current stagnation, Im not expecting changes soon - if at all. However, I do want this issue to be considered and more so I want to hear what everyone else thinks.

heavy veldt
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dead game

coarse topaz
coarse topaz
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wow, I havent even bumped the thread or had a convo here and we're getting steady upvotes

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what do yall reading this think tho? like am I wrong? is there anything more that can be done?

heavy falcon
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Bring gc back

coarse topaz
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BRING IT BACK!

sick ridge
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Dead game fr fr

However I’m sure the vast majority of the player base doesn’t play on steam.

coarse topaz
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the number of WS also seems to be on a slow decline iirc

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if steam, bls leaderboard, and WS api and even personal experience and even that fact that the game is being neglected, - all of these factors support decline

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so idk, I think anyone who thinks its growing or even holding still is dillusional...... and there is a refrence in here.......

rotund patrol
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the same people who say this also join corps where 99% of the players are d10-d11... "why don't I have anyone to run with?????"

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sync'ed queues, low-level corps, discord channels, there are endless resources. ive been leveling an alt (d9) and had no problem finding people to play with

wintry cairn
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I honestly think if ws was 5v5 we'd see more corps do them, due to low active players in corps. Also blue star is meh and they should figure out a way to do team blue star where it could be 3v3 or just 2v2. So 2 players join and fight against 2 players +cerbs. Could be an event. Just to switch up the basic grind of it. Red star doesn't have much options they already added drs which imo scare people away at least newer players who weren't around with OG HS (which is where social activity helps)

coarse topaz
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make it a 5v5, shorter the span even more, shorten the map and all.... sounds like a fast paced alternative that isnt as tilt prone or frustrating

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like bullet chess and classic chess

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one you binge play only for hours

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one you play a single game a day and it frustrates you 2 days or 20 years in

coarse topaz
# rotund patrol the same people who say this also join corps where 99% of the players are d10-d1...

No, Im not a low level player whose in rs9-11 corps finding no one to run RS with. I did not even mention RS, I just mentioned bare social interaction and the rate of retirement among the playerbase

How does it relate to this topic? It does not. Im not talking about being a low level player and finding not players to find with. You are just assuming it based on my personal experience, all while my personal anecdote is yet a cherry on top of the real data and widespread community opinion.

gusty vault
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The Corp aspect needs to be addressed by the Dev.
Corp vs. Environment and other Corp vs. Corp modes are needed in order to keep the game from completely crashing.

WS is a 5 day slug fest and should have rewards to match the commitment. Instead of credits/hydro, give me Arts for Corporate Mods. I understand it would add a lot to the game and be hard to implement but make some mods only available through WS

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BLS is a mosh pit.
Why not have a Corp BLS with 5 v 5 that runs on BLS time and damage?

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Or wingman where it’s 2v2v2

coarse topaz
gusty vault
coarse topaz
gusty vault
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Sad

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Maybe Grok needs to build a mobile game to overtake this niche game

coarse topaz
# gusty vault Sad

We got near 150 upvotes on two WS related threads, I did not even expect any actual change. But the dev responded, and it wasnt even an "okay guys, I understand this problem, but it cannot be implemented right now in this exact way", we got "ws players are a minority of the playerbase"

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you hear me? did you see that thread? the ws rewards and bring back old ws one

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and again, Im not even mad at them not even considering one of the highest upvoted threads

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so I cant but still wonder what the idealogy is for the game, after all these years

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I wanted hades to be a watered down eve, not a glorified idle tycoon

gusty vault
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I thought his direction was space gladiator arena

coarse topaz
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"unlike BLS" I havent even seen more than two people in my life that like BLS and...

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its okay, but I am not even asking for any changes or anything

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literally just words

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just words and didnt get it, got alienated

dusk mist
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There is numerous dead corps, where ~5 players are stuck and try to play. making dead corps disapear might help. like not deleted, just hard to find and reamining players get heavy suggestion to swap.

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and the big conglomerates dont help either. sure, they build community but there is little personal connection in it-which is the main thing to make someone stay playing longer the game.

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+BLS: if you die early, you have to wait up to 3 or more minutes just to try a new game.
even if you only want to get the daily rewards quickly, still have to wait a lot just to get to play.
No, I dont want to mine YS while waiting for BLS mach start/end, I want to PLAY!

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not to mention the fact, newbies often get "spawn killed" and similar things.
barely join the game, LeapModCLeap->dead.

gusty vault
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Merging corps makes sense and really needs to happen in order to keep WS alive… which even more lends to the need for Corporate updates.
This game will surely die on the vine if Andreas can’t find a way to bring a corporation into the forefront

coarse topaz
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what is hades if its not the social aspect and white stars

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the other modes, mimicked in a dozen games

coarse topaz
# dusk mist and the big conglomerates dont help either. sure, they build community but there...

100%, SAMMMEEEEEEE.

Every so now and then a newbie comes up, makes a new corp, taking away from the already depreciating player pool and not even competing with existing ones.
"Join the next top corp of hades!" "join a new and inspring outfit!" "We will prevail, the old will collapse!"

and the megacorps are the opposite extreme. No personality. No personal connecitivity. Theyre just like how real world big buisnesses are. Always recruiting newbies, the thirst for recruits, the attempt for absorbing smaller corps..... even after being so big...

dusk mist
coarse topaz
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modular pvp and pve , literally just an upgrade to HS

wintry cairn
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Yes but with a lot of p2w features