Genesis and Enrich that don't repeatedly stack in one place for white stars

[dim heath]

There is no reason to venture miners further than the planet level 1 sector. All genesis and enrich stack there and we are essentially playing tower defense.

I would like to roll back to when genesis and enrich didn't stack.

We had to strategicly plan where to genesis and enrich, and when. We would attempt to utilize the random asteroid spawns mid-game and we had to balance distance to our relic planets based on where the hydro was.

I submit this video as evidence of having to balance resource creation and distance
https://youtu.be/e7gESmLCXjU?si=f6l2AT9p6QP0Xsbs&t=46

@safe pond

[safe pond]

Hmmm
Looking at old genesis. Seems they have lots of roid spawns

Which means...
Ez tele/Destiny

[dim heath]

oh yea, it does increase risk

but then the miners are all over the place

They have 8 hours to get away

[safe pond]

A goodly timed and well positioned tele/destiny will surely fuck defense team for sure

[dim heath]

That is a lot to waste on one miner

[safe pond]

Of course if it's targeting miner

But planet

[dim heath]

I would probably bait you to bother one of t hem

[safe pond]

It just delays your transport

[dim heath]

but then I could relocate to another planet once you're committed

[safe pond]

Yup

[dim heath]

I had a single match where the enemy committed to my relic planet, so rather than take that, we drove over and took their relic planet. Then we drove back and took ours back after their mods were wasted.

[safe pond]

👀 but we can't do that fast with DN WS speed. No TW. Squishy no support

Dispatch taking 12h

[dim heath]

so each miner would get one sector all on it's own

maybe 2 if they're lucky

[safe pond]

Probably yeah

But genesis needs to spawn lots of roids otherwise

Remote Mining is 💀

[dim heath]

Genesis and Enrich that don't repeatedly stack in one place for white stars

hmm, was that just a me thing or can everyone do that?

[safe pond]

Like
Imagine you are placed on a sector with 2 roids and genesis only spawn 2 roids.

[safe pond]

Only the OP can changes the topic

Staff can't do it I think

[dim heath]

ok, I wasn't sure. I didn't want to be abusing anything

[dim heath]

that would be another thing to balance.

[safe pond]

I mean, kinda related

[dim heath]

we really need to get people off the p1's. Not having resources there could do it.

[safe pond]

P1 play is super boring

It just no longer fun to do

[dim heath]

yea, I just faced your team and we both did the same thing. Your team won and also expressed boredom

[safe pond]

I think we did this much much more ever since many corps did this

[dim heath]

Having to explain and coordinate resource collection I think would be beneficial

[safe pond]

Yes

[dim heath]

Maybe remote mining isn't as useful, or maybe it is but it gets a buff

[safe pond]

Remote Mining last 4h and if your sector has less than 4. Your mining is slower than without Remote

I see old Genesis spawn lots of Asteroids

Which is beneficial for Remote Mining too

[dim heath]

I'm sure they could balance it for being in multiple places

[safe pond]

Yes

[dim heath]

we could also pair miners

send 2, then the second blows gen/enrich somewhere else on the second half

[safe pond]

Remboost then double Crunches

And then repeat it again on other sector

Also Hydro Upload would be even beneficial

If it's affected by Hrep

There you got awesome miner strats to play

[dim heath]

the only issue with hydro upload is that it doesn't stack with replicator

[safe pond]

Yes

Which is bad

But old days, there's no replicator so

A win win

[dim heath]

old days it was a cargo bay extension

I think.. it's been a while.

[safe pond]

Hydrogen Bay Extension?

[dim heath]

yes, hbe

[safe pond]

Something like that yea

[supple raven]

It didn't stack.. at all?

I was probably to low of level, or not even playing when that was a thing.. imo not stacking makes more sense in red star you can't stack until timer is out. This also would mean you don't have everyone stacking with multiple barrier/bond in 1 sector the whole time, attacking and defending would definitely need to be more strategic

If they are lower level corps it might help an "unbalanced" match by spreading things out. Typically when you have a fortress in 1 sector it's hard to break up especially out matched, but vis versa hard to defend and out score without stacking I guess? Idk

[summer hare]

Maybe more h generated close to the star can do the trick of incentivevicing going away from the porral

Portal

[dim heath]

The game is currently so predictable, that we already have our mining orders before matching. Different terrain, bonuses per planets, and 1 gen/enrich per sector would fix that.

[safe pond]

I wonder what does Genesis do in old HS, including its value

cuz I see it spawns tons of roids instead of 2

[supple raven]

I mean you don't need to win by 100 relics

But with genesis/enrich as it is I could see a bunch of tied matches maybe if it didn't stack

Could boost enrich more for white star if it doesn't stack it's only 40% increase to a 500 max new hydro spawn at the highest level of genrich. Have enrich be a big players plus hydro replicator.. Hydro upload should be increased with replicator.. if genrich don't stack

Hydro upload does max at 90% at level 15 tho so I'd assume that's why it doesn't. But if you had replicator and upload max then it would just be 100% is uploaded if they change it

[dim heath]

Recently had another match like this. It would be really nice if hydro mining took strategy other than pick a single planet and maximize it.

[near crystal]

This would require a few changes, but that would increase the strategy on hydro management. As mentionned genesis should pop more astéroids, maybe dependent on sectors. And, as there will likly be less hydro, maybe remove the pmining penalty when there is a single astéroid?

[safe pond]

Apparently this will make turtle not possible because of tele/destiny threat

But will be more like brawl or some sort.

[fluid forge]

UNRELATED: I forgot how zooded old HS was

[dim heath]

I really miss when mining plans took strategy and it wasn't just pick a planet and everyone stack gen/enrich, then sit in one place. The game is so boring and repetitive =(

I have to assume nobody agrees with me since this barely has any votes.