Add Artifact/BP Rewards for all WS participants

[steep shard]

Believe it or not, but: I like WS. And only WS.
Neither RS nor BS are to my liking - way too repetitive, way too unbalanced for me - feel free to disagree.
To be able to progress my tech, I am forced to play RS - making part of the game a chore for me, instead of something fun.
So I would like to propose the following:
Every WS participant, upon WS completion and sufficient participation (tbd) should get all research slots filled with up to 12 random artifacts of his current RS scanner level, enhanced by the corporations art boost.
That is not much, not really enough to encourage loss farming, but it gives those who stay around HS for the WS games a small but steady (and in my opinion very necessary) tech progression.

[static zodiac]

You could do something like every 1 relic out = 1 art 1 lvl higher than your rs lvl put in your ts

[steep shard]

Thats a good idea! That way every participant would get a little something either way, but actively participating and bringing up to 12 arts back would enhance those rewards

[dim schooner]

Crazy idea…
1 day of research time for each research slot.

Not as insane as it initially seems since playing WS means researching some modules (blast shield, relic drone, dispatch) that aren’t otherwise useful

[drowsy juniper]

Ew random arts,
How unrewarding for someone that doesn’t want bp until after a different one. If they also take the time to research.

[steep shard]

You can always salvage if you dont want to take the time to research 🙂

[steep shard]

Also possible, but for me the time factor isnt the issue - I can just not play the game and time for research/upgrade will still pass. Getting artifacts to get access to bp is the more „difficult“ thing to me, because it involves me actively investing time into something I dont want to invest time into

[fossil haven]

I agree with this, but Im not sure of the implementation. I absolutely love white star, and red stars feel more like a chore that I want to avoid if someone's willing to donate to me. Blue stars are okay only because I can spam them and finish it within 3 or 4 rounds if I dont get wildly uptiered for no reason. If there was some extra reward for white stars it'd be really nice, because its kinda annoying how using some of your ships for 5 days gives you absolutely nothing in return except its kinda fun

Some ideas Ive had was talked abt somewhere in here > https://discord.com/channels/255083954036670464/1328823842809970708 , but again, I dont know exactly how it should be done

[drowsy juniper]

It takes up research time aswell!?
Gee... it ain't looking better

[steep shard]

Thats quite well spells out my issue - I do have fun playing WS, but just playing WS is not giving me the slightest tech progression. I loved how they removed the need to do BS with DN, but the dependency on RS for any kind of tech progression is still around - which I find kinda sad, as in my opinion, WS is actually the most challenging and fun game mode.
For the question of how this should be implemented - my suggestion is just one idea.
I acknowledge it cannot be something very big to avoid the resurgence of loss farming, but still… if feel there should be a reward for me investing 5 days of time strategizing, planning, scheduling and nail-biting.
My idea with providing arts is centered around my own issue of deeming RS a chore, and thus a small bp payout from WS participation would squash two issues at the same time - but any kind of reward for (active) WS participation would be nice to have.

[vital plaza]

@steep shard great idea 😁, hope it gets implemented. Maybe with a back log thing, like if your research station is full then you can redeem the random stuff via the apps notifications board or via a push button icon in Corporation profile/ research station 🤔

[fossil haven]

Something that Ive always thought abt is the idea that depositing hydrogen and bringing back relics give you rewards directly

Like depositing hydrogen gives you a percent of your credit cap, and relics become an actual tangible thing

I would love if relics became an actual item that gives you like 40 bp of every type of artifact, with a red star level one above your own

So you can collect them for yourself and trade them too

Maybe only sharable between your corp

[tidal summit]

Honestly I think it needs a kind of over haul. The leveling up is insufficient. It takes to long and andreas has inevitably turned this into being about getting the highest percentage as possible for art bonus so ppl are just hopping around to get the biggest bonus they can.

I know his response was "just join a bigger corp" but big corps stay open to allow players to get access to their bonus.

WS is the fun filler whilst your waiting for stuff to upgrade.. I agree hands down tho it's the most fun part of the game tho for players who don't count rewards.

[steep shard]

I like that idea too!
I would make it though that collected arts are rounded to and then divided by the number of ws participants. Artifacts could for example be stored to up to 10 per player, and wouldnt be tradeable. Every artifact could then be exchanged for one of multiple purposes:
-A number (for example 40 of each tech) of BP RS scanner lvl+1
-Immediately research all relics in research station
-A credit cap increase of X percent (0.5% or 1%) for example
-A flat 20% hydro refill
-100 Crystals
-You name it

That would greatly encourage to play WS actively, and would also give everyone a flexibility to invest it into where it is needed most

[fossil haven]

I absolutely love this idea, it allows you to chose what you want from a white star for whatever you might need

Maybe each relic counts as 0.1 of a relic token, and once you get a relic token everyone in the corp is allowed to chose something for themselves