Suggesion to return some risk-reward mechanics

[naive wagon]

Bro what are you rs4!
Shipment relay is worse SD12+
And even around SD8-9
Most people complain there isn’t enough hydro rs8+
Drs risk=reward

[formal eagle]

And didn’t play enough to learn about drs

[warm dove]

I always have plenty of hydro left over, even in the highest RS.

[cloud moth]

BS not using Hydro is already a good thing

[lament relic]

try drs

[warm dove]

That only solves a part of the example 2 :c

[formal eagle]

Relay is about twice the time to end game as relay

[runic parrot]

and what's the highest RS for you?
it doesn't seem like you have played the game a lot.
there's a reason behind every change you mention and it's laid out in the "upgrade guide" dev blog.

this is just a late "i want things back as they were because i didn't care to read why they were changed"

Now READ IT
http://blog.hadesstar.com/2023/10/dark-nebula-upgrade-guide.html

[warm dove]

Yes, I read it. I dont want all things to come back, there are many upgrades in the game. But some things of the old game are good.

[runic parrot]

i don't think you did, each change you complain about is explained there in detail

[warm dove]

Not everything, actually

F.e. the blog says that "Hydrogen should never be putting limits on what Modules are upgraded, or how Battleships are maneuvered.", but i dont see why is this bad.

[runic parrot]

because it's unnecessary to limit the player's freedom to move battleships and fight in different ways instead of fighting in one way that saves most hydro

[warm dove]

That made the battles fun. And it made hydro useful.

[runic parrot]

all I see is "i miss old HS" instead of appreciating the changes for the better

[warm dove]

I dont miss all of old Hades

Many changes are good and made the game better.

But not all changes are better.

Suggesion to return some risk-reward mechanics

[sage hearth]

what rs level are you

[cloud moth]

Apparently removing hydrogen usages on miner and bships was a good idea considering our hydrogen cap is abysmally low comparing to HS

and you can literally spam mods on YS for testing 👀

[formal eagle]

Yet he still made it so hydro use does limit what mods we can get when. Can’t get art boost 14 when you have the prints and cap, nooooo gotta wait for miner 7 3+ years later

[sage hearth]

art boost 14 seems like an anomaly tho

[formal eagle]

It’s not. There are other similar trolls though not all hydro related it’s the same thing imo. “I can’t level blank without having blank already”

[runic parrot]

Like what? AB is the level trap tech.
You can argue CBE and RS level are closely related, but not on the same level. (cbe13 may be too hard to get)

[formal eagle]

Most of the trolls are things like being .0001% damage short of one hitting a cerb so you need the next level.