Abnormally low FPS

[wind marten]

I have a brand new PC running a 5090 and 9800X3D. The only way I can run this game and get the frames my PC can and should produce, is to run the game in DXVK mode. Please help me understand why and because of this, am I not getting the new graphical improvements @patent oasis

[jade nova]

my pc is not as high end as that, but I'm experiencing the same thing, incredibly low fps

even in a standalone session

[patent oasis]

Hmm let me ask the programmers tomorrow. I know it was said in the past that maybe your pcie comm on gpuz isn't at it's max or fluctuates? Like maybe Nvidia thinks the game is actually a web browser

[cinder forum]

add pc specs please

[patent oasis]

Wondering if fullscreen or borderless windowed make any difference

[jade nova]

I have nothing else but raceroom and steam. not even onedrive is working

[cinder forum]

not for me

[cinder forum]

what is your cpu, gpu ram etc

[jade nova]

yesterday I ran in zolder and it was fine, 15-20 fps with people inside, we were 5 or 6

but today, the steam fps overlay says the same but it's all cut, the image is not fluent

[jade nova]

i5, intel gpu

620, I think

[cinder forum]

can you check and post actual specs

[jade nova]

hp i5-8265u
uhd graphics 620
16gb ram

here's a photo

if you wanted more information

like, i know the pc is not programmed to racing, but this sim is the only one I can run quite well, all on low settings

or, could

[wind marten]

This would make sense. As there is no reason why my PC should not be able to push 000’s FPS. How do I change this?

[wind marten]

I have tried this and it’s the same regardless. Sub 60 FPS and with inconsistencies, so lots of frame drops, stutters etc

[patent oasis]

grab GPU-z and check the pcie speed for your gpu, maybe it's variable / dynamic

maybe some energy saving policy on the motherboard?

[jade nova]

any fix for my problem?

[patent oasis]

I'm afraid your laptop has a lack of CPU pure speed. The minimal requirement for RR is a dual core 2.4 GHz for example

this is because of all the simulation aspects making the game very CPU heavy

so I'd look for game settings in the menu that have a high CPU impact and lower those

[jade nova]

and did this update increase the cpu impact?

because like I said, the day before I was doing a race in zolder with 6 other people, and it was reaching 15-20fps

[patent oasis]

no

[jade nova]

I find it weird, cause even now, the steam fps overlay says I'm reaching 20 fps, but while driving, the image cuts. but when I press esc, to go to the menu, it drops back to 4-5 fps

then what changed in terms of hardware in this update?

[patent oasis]

not really anything, but you're so low in framerate anything will have a big impact

try and reduce settings if you're not already at lowest level

[jade nova]

yh, settings already lowest as possible

damn, this sim was the only I could run ahahaahha

do you know if will there be an "offline mode", like practice or ai races?

[patent oasis]

not in the near future, no.

[clever egret]

I tried a few things, for example i used lossless scaling for frame generation and for the app i was doing 75/80 fps but i saw less than 30 fps. With the frane generation x3 was the same thing

[wind marten]

Here it is. Do I need to be in game or is this all we need?

[cinder forum]

your card is running at 1 x looking at that, click the ? bus interface and see if it changes underload

it should read PCIE 16X 5.0 @ x16 5.0

if it doesnt , try reseating it

[strong cipher]

I've got a 5090 in a laptop, and if I let that free run, I'm getting almost 500fps out of RaceRoom at 2560x1440. That PCIE value above doesn't look right to me either.

[strong cipher]

I'd also try the MSI Kombuster msi-01 benchmark. You should be getting way more fps than my laptop 5090 (my results in image, overclocking off) if you have a desktop 5090:

https://www.geeks3d.com/furmark/kombustor/downloads/

[clever egret]

I fixed with uninstalling the last update of windows, try with this solution

[wind marten]

Thanks all. Let me try these out

[patent oasis]

Let us know how that went

[clever egret]

The problem wasn’t the windows update, the game is normal without the wheel ecc. but when i plug the wheel the game starts lagging and when i put it out the game fps turns normal

If u want i can send a video

[cinder forum]

what wheel ?

[patent oasis]

share your game.log and controller profile ( *.rcs in userdata\controlset\ )

!logs

[lunar flower]

Log files can be found in Documents\My Games\SimBin\RaceRoom Racing Experience\UserData\Log make sure to sort by date to see the newest files!

[clever egret]

I sent them

[wind marten]

when I run the test it remains at x1and does not switch to x16. I will speak to PC Specialists tomorrow to try and work out what is causing this issue.

[cinder forum]

not seated correctly ;, or not enough power getting in ; losse connectors

[patent oasis]

Where?

[clever egret]

In priv

[jade nova]

guys, I may have figured out what is causing the game to lag

it's my wheel. as soon as I connect it, the fps drop significantly. but, if not connected, and even using the mouse as steering input, the game flows really well

what can I do?

[clever egret]

I wrote it here some days ago, do you have a logitech wheel?

[jade nova]

yes

the g28, I think. it has the red knob

[clever egret]

I have the g920, I think the problem is the logitech g hub

[jade nova]

wym, the logitch software in the windows?

[clever egret]

Yes

[jade nova]

I have the old one, cause when I started I installed the new and I had to always change the the wheel angle

but, how do I solve it then?

[clever egret]

Idk

[jade nova]

-_-

isn't there a way to perhaps update the drivers or smth?

[clever egret]

I’m trying now with an update of the g hub

Nothing, i have the problem

[jade nova]

even with the update on the g hub?

[clever egret]

Yes

[jade nova]

what g hub you're using?

[clever egret]

The version 2025.9.814157

Are you italian?

[jade nova]

I'm using this one

[jade nova]

no

[clever egret]

It’s not the same program

[clever egret]

Do you know what is the problem? Is a bug of the game with the logitech wheels?

[jade nova]

then you're using the new one?

this one?

[patent oasis]

@jade nova it's failing to create FFB effects, so it's definitely relating to your wheel and its environment

[jade nova]

I think that was to @clever egret, right?

[patent oasis]

oh sorry

@clever egret

[jade nova]

still, I'm guessing I have the same problem, and not because the pc specs, remember?

[clever egret]

So what i have to do?

[clever egret]

Ok i found the solution, turn off the ffb setting in controls menu

[jade nova]

in rre?

[clever egret]

Yes

[worthy hazel]

Do you guys face this problem in replay mode or only when you drive your car?
I have g923 with ghub and check my performance in replay mode while my wheel was connected. I tested when I set my control on wheel and keyboard. I did not see any performance difference or drop on standing still at the start of race.
I don't know what hardware @clever egret has. If you can share it, it will be helpful.

@jade nova Did you install only your LGS software or you switch between LGS and ghub at some point?
Did you use instruction to clean uninstall ghub and remove drivers before installing you LGS?

I know there are some strange bugs can happen if you install LGS over ghub if some of the older files left behind.

• Check and see if disabling your usb power mode has any effect on performance or not.
• Does changing usb port has any impact on your performance? is there any other device is connected to your laptop beside your wheel?
• Try to run the game in borderless windows and in task manager give it a higher priority than normal and see if improve your performance or not. you can also limit the number of core on LGS to see if it helps or not.

[jade nova]

I disabled the ffb on rre and it worked, no more lag in-game. the thing is that I had the older lg hub, and I thought it was that the problem, so I switched to the new one this morning. but I'm getting the older back cause the steering angle with the new one is too loose in-game but not on desktop

[worthy hazel]

How did you disable ffb? in logitech software or in game?
For ghub, it's known issue that game does not auto adjust the rotation and you need to adjust it manually. You need to take the rotation number from car setup and put it in ghub rotation angle so they get match and you have 1:1 rotation ratio.
#memes message

[jade nova]

yh, but when I switch to the game window, it gets loose again

in control settings

I disabled it, and enabled it. problem solved

[worthy hazel]

For this, I adjust the FFB multiplayer to have stiffer feeling. Also. I use the FFB meter so that it doesn't overshoot the FFB limit on wheel.

[worthy hazel]

I'm sorry. It's still not clear where did you disable/enable it.( It can be helpful for later if someone face the same issue.)

[jade nova]

here

[north mist]

Same for me! RX6800XT, 64GB DDR4 CL18, Windows 11 Pro. I play on a Xbox Controller (i know, shame on me etc. hehe but i have no space for a Wheel). Here's what I've tried so far that hasn't helped.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the game.

Running the game in borderless window mode as described here and giving the game a higher priority in Task Manager.

Disabling FFB in the game.

Changing the USB Port that the controller is plugged into doesn't help either.

[jade nova]

the problem with disabling the ffb is that the car feels different, and it behaves different as well

[north mist]

Exactly!

And even though I only drive with an XBOX controller, driving without FFB is not an option for me, it completely ruins the feeling when the vehicle feels and behaves differently. This must have something to do with one of the latest Raceroom updates. I just don't understand why only a few people seem to have this problem.

[jade nova]

they told me it's probably my pc specs, for being low

but it doesn't seem to different. I'm used to drive the r8 gt3, but without the ffb it feels like a porsche so yh, I'll just adapt

[north mist]

But that just doesn't make sense. I hadn't had any problems at all the whole time. I think 64GB, RX 6800XT, and a Ryzen 7 5800X3D aren't that bad. Until a few days ago, everything was definitely still working perfectly for me. I was getting around 100 FPS, if not more, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the Black Friday Pack. The whole thing only started with one of the latest updates from Raceroom in the last few days. I think it's a bit simplistic to just blame it on the PC specs.

[jade nova]

I thought so too, cause it's the only sim I can run. and after the q4 update, with the 2002, 2025 dtm and all that, it all went down. but my problem seems to be the wheel, the g29 logitech. so, perhaps something to do with the ffb of the wheel itself not being compatible with the game maybe, so it runs on minimum requirements

[tender saffron]

I didn’t read through all the messages but I think I do have a very similar problem. For me it helped to turn of my clipping software and leave any discord call and discord steams from other people were even worse also if I didn’t even had them opened.

[worthy hazel]

The wheel is fully supported in game both in LGS software as wheel as Ghub.( beside auto rotation adjustment bug in ghub.)
Sadly, troubleshooting performance issue is not easy and you need to spend time, use software such as presentmon and figure out the cause.
What @tender saffron wrote is also true. I also heard that some people disable discord overlay to avoid this performance issue or closed it before the race. maybe disabling hardware acceleration in discord can be useful to solve this issue.

[candid wolf]

I use 923 without any logitech software, my laptop dosnt even have a grafic card

I runs on 60 fps on minimal settings

Try this

[worthy hazel]

Without logitech software, you don't have FFB anymore and your wheel behave like a bungee cord wheel.

[candid wolf]

I have ffb

And It works perfectly fine

[worthy hazel]

I would appreciate it if you would share your FFB meter while you are driving and make a video clip of it.

[candid wolf]

Okey

Tomorrow

[candid wolf]

How can I send you clip from race room?

[lean vessel]

Same for me. FPS way below ten on 5070ti, 9800X3D

[worthy hazel]

You can upload it here if it is under 50mb
If it is over 50mb, upload it in youtube and post the link here.

[candid wolf]

And where is FFB meter?

[worthy hazel]

you need to bind a button to iy in control setting. ( or search ffb meter in setting and chose it so that you jump to that option.)
after that run a season and go to driver mode and press the ffb meter button so that it shows up in game. Normally, it will show up on the left side of screen. like this:

[candid wolf]

I did it and it didnt show anyline

Online red on top and yellow on bottom

I Turned on something and it shows how I stear the wheel, breaking and accelerating in bars

Now I notice when my wheel is turned 180* in game it only about 130*

[worthy hazel]

If you don't have green line, you don't have FFB. Your wheel behave like a bungee cord wheel.

[worthy hazel]

remove the hand animation and try again. Although without logitech software, the game may think you are using gamepad.

[candid wolf]

Okej

[candid wolf]

My ffb works

I can send you video of me driving

[candid wolf]

I downloaded g hub

Its so much better

Before my wheel was always using the same force

Sorry

I didnt know it could do it

[worthy hazel]

new tip:
When you want to drive, go to car setup and look at the rotation angle of car. put that number in ghub so that you have same 1:1 ratio. This way you will have right FFB for each car and feel the difference between them.
For example|:
By default, ghub is 900 degree.
If you have car with 540 degree wheel rotation, change the ghub number to 540.
Also, at the moment, ghub only accept 10x degree. like 450, 540, 360 and etc. If your car has some strange rotation number - like 346 - you need to turn the number to 10x. for this example go 350. if it's lower than 5 for example 721, turn it to 720.
Welcome to the sim world.

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[candid wolf]

Thanks

Are you going to play 1h in gt3 and hypercars?

[worthy hazel]

No, busy in IRL. Have good run.

[candid wolf]

Thanks

Its my first 1h race

Is it good to pit or put 120L and dont change tires

?

[worthy hazel]

ask in https://discord.com/channels/254906072748261376/672776539368194068

[cinder phoenix]

I run the game in DXVK mode since months ago, not planning to ever change it

[polar schooner]

i have a similar issue with my 7900xtx 24gb and ryzen 7 7800x3d but i ahve tons of frames 170 and up but acts like im getting 20