33% dead zone in throttle pedal(i try many different axis and brands and settings)

[frosty vortex]

rerun di view , leave it on , rebind in game

when binding ingame use full axis of all pedals

[hoary rock]

hi i already do it the same....dead zone .i try to search in plr file but its code i cant understand....i delete the documents i reinstal the game many times i swap usb ports ....crazy all sim working perfect only here the issue..

[frosty vortex]

game off/ run diview just press all the pedals / leave it running , go to documents / my games/ simbin/ raceroom/ user/ control sets and delete it (if you have reinstalled a few times you may have raceroom/ 2, 3 etc, if thats the case id move them all) restart game , and slowly bind the pedals going through there full range

when you have done this , go back to documents and find the control set you created something.rcs and post it here

[hoary rock]

i have only 1 raceroom file but i will do it again noe

i hope help this

[hoary rock]

i have and 1 rcs keyboard you need it also?

[frosty vortex]

no

@noble sandal Mr hodgy any help would be great

[hoary rock]

i use moza r12

heunikveld sprint

[noble sandal]

Are you referring to when stationary and the engine is idling?

[hoary rock]

hi and when i have 2-3-4 gear

[noble sandal]

When the car is moving?

[hoary rock]

yes even when i race

[noble sandal]

Have you calibrated the pedals in diview?

[hoary rock]

yes perfect

in heu sofware same

i use also for the input different hardware even and my handbrake axis

same deadzone 33

[noble sandal]

OK it could be a handbrake problem. Delete and rebind that

Also check the auto blip settings and try some different modes there seee if it makes a difference

[hoary rock]

no i delete the controles setting before

the test with handbrake i do morning

[hoary rock]

i wiil now and return to you

[hoary rock]

i try all combination man man auto blip automatic without tc with tc same look the input bar and no rev

its toomuch and when i exit corner no power the engine if i go aggressive only i have power

i appreciate your time

[frosty vortex]

can you turn off hu software and see if that helps , so hu off , diview rebind, then rebind in game

[hoary rock]

i try now ok

[frosty vortex]

@weak lark you have these pedals ?

[noble sandal]

Check the game mode has not been changed to 'novice' instead of 'get real'

[frosty vortex]

wow , id have never gone there ...

[weak lark]

I do. Never had any problems with them. What is the input showing in the HE software? 1st you want to make sure the pedal is putting out a proper signal before you worry about what the game sees. Start HE software with the game shut down for a start off. I won't be able to keep replying, at work with bad mobile signal.

I see he is using a moza wheel, is he using the KS rim with the dual clutch? I can't confirm but another user was having an issue with the clutches giving a game input while appearing not to. Unbind the clutch completely and just use auto clutch and see if that helps any.

[hoary rock]

same with real mode

[hoary rock]

hi thanks for your text i use only rally rim in qr i use the heu clutch.everything is perfect in software and in game the issue is the deadzone in the rcs inside maybe

[hoary rock]

also i delete the clutch input. i use different brands pedals all day same issue only in throttle pedal brake perfect clutch same

[frosty vortex]

in the settings is your throttle input at 50% linear ingame

[hoary rock]

i upload the ingame settings to ssee it

[noble sandal]

I see no problem with the .rcs

If you set a throttle lower dead zone of 33% does the problem stop?

[frosty vortex]

sorry im on my tablet and struggle with files

[hoary rock]

if i add dead Zone i need more travel the pedal to start rev .in the game when i assign the pedal is perfect linear no delay no dead zone .when i start drive coming the deadzone crazy i know...

[hoary rock]

no problem i upload the in game settings and the values 50 sensitivity

[frosty vortex]

thanks

[knotty cradle]

it doesn't look like a throttle pedal calibration/deadzone issue because Input meter shows the pedal correctly

[hoary rock]

hi yea the issue is from the rcs i believe or plr file but is coded.i can't do inspection.

also i use different hardware gear all day and same dead zone

[knotty cradle]

no, I mean your throttle input goes into the game correctly and .rsc file is also correct

[hoary rock]

ok sorry

[knotty cradle]

so there's something wrong after that

rename Documents\My games\Simbin to Simbin-backup, then start the game. all settings will be default, so bind only the necessary stuff like steering, gas/brake, shift up/down and try again

if it doesn't fix anything, delete the new Simbin folder and rename Simbin-backup back to Simbin

[hoary rock]

i will nowand return

[hoary rock]

same with this input the car is no rev

[knotty cradle]

it's the same for me on a gamepad. this is where revs still stay on idle revs

on your last screenshot I think revs already started growing

unless someone can show a different behaviour on the same throttle level, I say it's a feature, not a bug

[hoary rock]

Before is 33
Now is around 29-30

[hoary rock]

Maybe if I play with diview values in middle to go faster from 0 to high numbers I don't know if work also 😕

[weak lark]

HE software is by far superior to diview though, you shouldn't be needing to use that at all.

[knotty cradle]

it doesn't look like 30% on your screenshot. anyway, if you want to get rid of it by any means, I'd try setting up your pedals so that 0% travel on your pedals already results in 15-20% pedal signal. so basically you'll always be on at least 15-20% throttle

although I don't know where you can make such changes

[weak lark]

It's a known thing that the cars don't begin to rev hard without significant throttle input. That's the same in real life too. It's a throttle not a rev selector.

I can't see any of the videoss so I can't really tell what's going on here.

[knotty cradle]

didn't Alex say that when he asked about throttle response in GT3s, they said it's linear? that would mean it should start revving up right away

[weak lark]

That's not how it works though, no car in the world does that. You're asking the engine to turn over faster, but there are all sorts of reasons it doesn't want to. So tickling the gas inst going to do much.

He hasn't got the ebr turned way up or something? So it's already idling fast without throttle input?

[hoary rock]

Yes I understand this but before I don't have this problem.if you push 20-25 percentage your pedal the car no rev ? Even from idle or between gears?

[weak lark]

But it's showing as input on the meter when you press the throttle that much?

[noble sandal]

No it's not linear; here are the throttle maps the Huracan GT3 use for example

[hoary rock]

Yes the input number say 30-33( otter HUD)

And car no rev

[frosty vortex]

otter may be borked

[hoary rock]

Happened and in group A and in group 5

[weak lark]

I don't know if this is even a problem. It's a racing car, aren't you going full throttle anyway?

[frosty vortex]

is this the branch3d otter or old one

[noble sandal]

Have you tried the hypercar? Does it move when you press the throttle 10%?

[knotty cradle]

but revs should still react even from a few % of throttle, right?

[hoary rock]

When exit corner I need progressive input if I push 50-60 % slide or lost control

[hoary rock]

No I dont

[weak lark]

Incredibly slowly though, if you drive a real car and put minimal throttle in it may move but it won't accelerate

[knotty cradle]

doesn't matter, I see the same behavior on our regular input meter. but not upto 30% like he says, only upto ~17%

[weak lark]

I'm pretty sure there is very little response at low inputs, and it's always been that way.

[hoary rock]

It not move or increase speed if not push more more than 33% input

[noble sandal]

When was the last time you felt it did not behave like this?

[hoary rock]

Last time I drive before 2 weeks and all is perfect!

[weak lark]

It's not that below a certain throttle level it's not able to overcome the auto clutch or something like that is it. There must be a built in level of slip?

[noble sandal]

Something like that

[hoary rock]

I use and h pattern with clutch and same deadzone

[weak lark]

I'll have to test mine tonight and see what my setup does. I can't say it's ever felt wrong, but I also know that at very low input ot doesn't do much. 33% sounds excessive though.

[hoary rock]

I appreciate your time I hope be same at yours ☺️ so finished my headache

[knotty cradle]

it looks like it's car related too. because in Huracan it only takes about 10-12% input for rev to start growing. compared to ~17% in 992 Endurance

[hoary rock]

Really? You test it now? For group A and group 5?

[knotty cradle]

and for old cars this effect should be even bigger. let's see

[weak lark]

I'm currently sitting in my real car revving it to see what happens 🤣🤣

[hoary rock]

Amazing

😂

[knotty cradle]

in Touring classics BMW I need more than 35% for the revs to start growing. in Gr.5 BMW 320 it's about 30%+

[weak lark]

It's more or less the same, at low throttle, next to nothing happening. Only when you get to around 25% does the engine start to pick up. I'm leaning towards this being a feature, perhaps exaggerated slightly so that controller users get a "soft" acceleration

[hoary rock]

So there is nothing wrong all it's fine happy now

[knotty cradle]

I don't think the game differentiates between a gamepad and pedals. I haven't seen anything of that sort in .rsc files

[weak lark]

No that's what I mean. It's built in to the game, as a feature, for all

[hoary rock]

Perfect 😃 really sorry for the quiz I create with my problem.happy to chat with all of you!

[weak lark]

Now I don't know who's the geekiest between Alex and Niels. But I remember this video from a while back. This kind of thing is in most of not all sims. https://youtu.be/vle-VUevJH8?si=M9xtgEtYT0QVx3Ln

[hoary rock]

The throttle map is wrong in other sims and here is realistic that I understand right now

[knotty cradle]

I think these are two different things: engine response to throttle during basically no load, and torque behaviour on different throttle values with load (when the car is moving)

Niels is talking about the latter

[weak lark]

Well it's the same thing but just exaggerated/easier to see under load. The engine still has to spin up even under no load. Eg sitting in my car now, I can add throttle and the revs won't just continue to grow, they stabilise, because the engine has friction, revs don't just rise and rise for any given throttle level.

[knotty cradle]

I remember he tested it and said Raceroom is also wrong like most other games. maybe someone can test it again, in case it was fixed since then