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magic wyvern
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Plz tag me if you reponse to me so I’ll know

quick dew
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did you get this from a textbook?

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you should burn it immediately

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those rules for le and la are just tendencies

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also every h is mute

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it's la leçon, not le

magic wyvern
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I get this from textbook he’s

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Yes

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Oh OK

quick dew
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that's your notebook

magic wyvern
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Sorry my WiFi bad

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Yes

magic wyvern
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From*

quick dew
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yeah leçon is the only odd one out here, except "père" but they didn't mention that one

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but like those rules don't work

magic wyvern
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OK I’ll fix that thank you

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Oh OK

quick dew
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there's plenty of exceptions

magic wyvern
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OK

quick dew
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le prêtre

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le manège

magic wyvern
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Oh so how can you tell what to use le or la ?

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I used chatgpt 💀

quick dew
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you learn it with the noun

quick dew
magic wyvern
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Oh wow

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OK thank you

quick dew
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ai will sometimes be wrong but present it in a plausible way

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;chatgpt

deft raptorBOT
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afrancophonie ChatGPT et les autres grands modèles de langage d'IA sont des outils intéressants pour l'apprentissage des langues, mais faillibles. Les informations qu'ils donnent peuvent être erronées, tout en donnant des justifications plausibles pour quelqu'un ne maîtrisant pas la langue. Il ne faut pas les utiliser comme source ultime d'information. Ils peuvent cependant aider à déconstruire une phrase en divers concepts (que vous pouvez ensuite vérifier), donner des traductions contextualisées, et simuler divers interlocuteurs.

anglophonie ChatGPT and other large AI language models are interesting tools for language learning, but they are fallible. The information they provide can be incorrect while offering seemingly logical justifications to someone who does not fully master the language. They should not be used as an endpoint for information. However, they can help deconstruct a sentence into various concepts that you can then verify, provide contextualized translations, and simulate diverse conversational partners.

magic wyvern
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Oh I didn’t see that one

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So the rules are lies sob

quick dew
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yeah the truth is you should just add an indefinite articles to nouns in your vocabulary lists

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so un or une

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bc words that use l' also have a gender

magic wyvern
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But this is correct ?

quick dew
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and you're gonna need to know that for adjectives

magic wyvern
quick dew
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works for -al adjectives too

magic wyvern
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Alright

quick dew
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there's other tendencies like that

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like -ité nouns being feminine

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-tion nouns being fem

magic wyvern
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Since I’m super beginner, this is confusing since chatgpt lied lol

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YouTube works

quick dew
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yeah you'll find wrong info on yt a lot more rarely than with an ai

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if not never

magic wyvern
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So YT works or ?

quick dew
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yeah

magic wyvern
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I mean I have no friends or anything to teach me French in real life

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OK

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So far, I fix the le leçon into la.
Remove the le and la rules part

quick dew
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;débutant

deft raptorBOT
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afrancophonie Pour commencer, tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil aux nombreuses ressources publiées dans #1279421820654850162 . Tu peux poser des questions dans #salle-de-classe ou #salle-de-classe-fr, ou bien discuter en #français dans #français-débutant, #français ou #français-2. Pour finir, tu peux participer dans nos salons vocaux, que ce soit en discutant ou simplement en écoutant. D'autre part, le site Lawless French est un support précieux pour obtenir des leçons de français!

anglophonie To start, you can take a look at all the resources in the #1279421820654850162 . You can ask questions in #salle-de-classe or #salle-de-classe-fr or have discussions in French in #français-débutant #français or #français-2 Additionally, you can participate in our voice channels, either by speaking or just listening. Moreover, the website Lawless French is full of precious French lessons!

https://www.lawlessfrench.com/learn-french/french-for-beginners/

smoky wedge
quick dew
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nvm then

magic wyvern
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Yikes

smoky wedge
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I've seen plenty of fully incorrect translations on YouTube

quick dew
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surely big channels are trustworthy

smoky wedge
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People just want a quick buck

magic wyvern
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That’s difficult. The only way best to place to learn French is to go Canada or France💀

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But I have no money for that

quick dew
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nah

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you just have to use trusted sources

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like lawlessfrench

magic wyvern
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I’m planning to go collage in Canada

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Oh OK

quick dew
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oh thats great if you can make it happen

smoky wedge
magic wyvern
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OK

smoky wedge
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Like french courses or learning other stuff in french

quick dew
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but as i said, you should learn about indefinite articles and use those for vocabulary

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because you wanna know the gender of nouns that begin with vowels too

magic wyvern
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Oh OK

smoky wedge
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Fenêtre, not ferêtre

magic wyvern
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Oh my bad

smoky wedge
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Do you know what a mute h is?

magic wyvern
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Silent h right ?

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No h sound ?

smoky wedge
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H is never pronounced

magic wyvern
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In general ?

smoky wedge
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There are 2 kinds of h:
H muet
H aspiré
Neither is pronounced

magic wyvern
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OK

smoky wedge
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The names are a bit misleading

magic wyvern
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Oh OK got it

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Thank you so much

smoky wedge
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H aspiré blocks stuff like liaison because it acts as if there's a consonant there

magic wyvern
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OK

smoky wedge
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Usually because it used to be pronounced, either in older versions of the language or if it was taken from another language

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H muet is more common though so if you're not sure, assume it's muet

magic wyvern
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Yah. It’s quite hard because I’m learning French from France and going to Canada will be different

smoky wedge
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It's mostly the same

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Sometimes I don't even notice people are from france for a while when talking to them

magic wyvern
smoky wedge
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Lol

magic wyvern
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LOL

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But I’m still can be confident about it

smoky wedge
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The stuff that differentiates them more is slang. Québécois aren't running around only using slang with everyone they come across

magic wyvern
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Got it

smoky wedge
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99% of the vocab you'll hear and use will be the same

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Especially as a learner

magic wyvern
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Perfect than

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Thank you so much

smoky wedge
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The only thing that might confuse you is that quebecois has more vowels

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French has a lot to start with so it might be a tad overwhelming but you'll adjust