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wary bearBOT Feb 18, 2026, 2:19 PM

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silk maple Feb 18, 2026, 2:24 PM

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Do you have a specific verb that doesnt end in a vowel when using il/elle/on/iel?

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i for some reason cant think of one

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oh

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peut-il exists

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So I presume the -t- is used so it is pronounced better

trail fog Feb 18, 2026, 2:26 PM

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yeah they either end in a vowel (in which case you add the t) or they end in d or t (in which case you do the liaison)

quaint flare Feb 18, 2026, 2:26 PM

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I learned that it's supposed to be pronounced better but i don't know when to write it in lol

austere bison Feb 18, 2026, 4:17 PM

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Je crois que tu utiliserais après une voyelle pour « il/elle/on.

Mange-t-il
Écoute-t-elle quand le prof parle ?

upper karma Feb 18, 2026, 5:20 PM

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We use -t- to make things smoother from a vowel to another in inversion, but we chose that particular letter because it is what ends the third person singular conjugation in the present tense in Latin. It just carried over in this instance.

remote imp Feb 18, 2026, 5:21 PM

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silk maple Do you have a specific verb that doesnt end in a vowel when using il/elle/on/iel...

Generally it's the first group that has vowel endings; the others have the third person singular present ending in T or D which you pronounce T anyway

upper karma Feb 18, 2026, 5:22 PM

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And some third group verbs like aller, offrir, etc.

remote imp Feb 18, 2026, 5:24 PM

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1st group:
il parle -> parle-t-il

2nd group:
il finit -> finit-il
il vient -> vient-il
il dort -> dort-il
il ouvre -> ouvre-t-il

3rd group:
il rend -> rend-il
il prend -> prend-il
il conduit -> conduit-il
il écrit -> ecrit-il
il plaint -> plaint-il
il met -> met-il
il connait -> connait-il

irregulars:
il est -> est-il
il a -> a-t-il
il veut -> veut-il
il va -> va-t-il
il reçoit -> reçoit-il

upper karma Feb 18, 2026, 5:24 PM

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Ouvrir is third group.

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Heck, finir is the only one in the second group from your list.

remote imp Feb 18, 2026, 5:26 PM

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upper karma Ouvrir is third group.

Verbs are categorised differently than in traditional French grammar
https://french.kwiziq.com/revision/glossary/verb-conjugation-group

Kwiziq French

Conjugation Group : French language revision

A simple explanation of "Conjugation Group". Revise and improve your French with detailed notes, examples, audio and personalised learning tools for exam/test preparation or general improvement.

upper karma Feb 18, 2026, 5:27 PM

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Joli CSC.

remote imp Feb 18, 2026, 5:29 PM

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upper karma Joli CSC.

càd ?

upper karma Feb 18, 2026, 6:02 PM

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Your link says the first two groups are the same in both classifications, the only differene lies in the rest of the verbs, the irregular ones.
Besides, second-group verbs have persent participles ending in -issant.

quaint flare Feb 18, 2026, 9:36 PM

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interesting thank you!!

rapid storm Feb 18, 2026, 10:11 PM

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Usually the two patterns are differentiated by saying "first/second/third group" for the french system and "[regular/irregular] er/ir/re verbs" for the FSL system

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Patterns like oir and true irregulars were taught but not treated as a group, just irregulars of their respective endings

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