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cosmic glacierBOT
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Please be patient

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Make it descriptive, including relevant context, but also to the point. This way you improve your chances of getting a more relevant and specific answer.

dusky ore
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you can learn French that way.
As long as you submit yourself to media and try to understand it, you're improving

sour wolf
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Production and comprehension are ultimately two different skills. At a certain point you have to accept that your initial efforts to produce won't be great and just throw yourself at it. And this can be a great place for that

dusky ore
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what you may add though is grammar.
Grammar are the rules of the languages, explaining how things work and why they work the way they do.
Reading about such things can really help you clear up confusions you may have, as well as have a better understanding of how to produce your own sentences

marble cobalt
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dusky ore
# marble cobalt honestly im kinda lost with grammar, ive learned the basics, but like, where do ...

I would advise on following lessons for core elements of the languages. Those include such things as:

  • basic sentence structure (subject–verb–object order, word order with adverbs, modifiers, etc.)
  • core tenses and their conjugations (present, passé composé, imparfait, futur simple...)
  • prepositions and how to use them generally (à, de, sur, avec...)
  • how to form questions in several ways (intonation, est-ce que, inversion)
  • articles and determiners (definite, indefinite, partitive: le, la, les, un, une, du, de la…)
  • adjective agreement and placement (masculine/feminine, singular/plural, before/after the noun)
  • pronouns (subject, object direct/indirect, reflexive, relative, demonstrative, etc.)
  • negation forms (ne... pas, ne... jamais, ne... plus, ne... rien, etc.)
  • common irregular verbs and their patterns (être, avoir, aller, faire, venir, pouvoir, devoir…)
  • and others

Now I'm not telling you to cram all of that before you start doing anything else, but those are the kind of thing you should actively try to look up and get familiar with. When you have the time, you can pick up a lessons and improve on that point.

with all that, you should have enough grammatical knowledge to be able to build your own sentences and understand a lot of what you're reading.
But not all. Of course, there are many constructions and grammatical points in the language, and you're not gonna cram them all without structure. Some are very niche and you're gonna be like "when am I going to use that"
My personal take is to just read and listen to media, and pause whenever I'm confused and want to better understand something to check the grammar or vocab for it. Alternatively if I don't want to pause, I take note of it and check later

marble cobalt
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merci ! je connais la pluspart de ça. peut-être un peu que je ne connais pas bien et que jai besoin toujours de apprendre. pour moi, je manque vocab, et souvent; je me sens comme je ne sais rien.

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c'est tellement mauvais

stuck trellis
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That's okay, but I think you should also try talking to someone or simulate a conversation. You can't chat with someone without practicing first, no matter how well you understand the language