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vernal elkBOT
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Please be patient

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stoic sable
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Hi, are you a complete beginner looking to get into the language?

clever steppe
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Yeah I mean If it helps I am a 6 in duolingo

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In French

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I do know some things here and there ofcourse

stoic sable
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;beginner

vernal elkBOT
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afrancophonie Pour commencer, tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil aux nombreuses ressources publiées dans #1279421820654850162 . Tu peux poser des questions dans #salle-de-classe ou #salle-de-classe-fr, ou bien discuter en #français dans #français-débutant, #français ou #français-2. Pour finir, tu peux participer dans nos salons vocaux, que ce soit en discutant ou simplement en écoutant. D'autre part, le site Lawless French est un support précieux pour obtenir des leçons de français!

anglophonie To start, you can take a look at all the resources in the #1279421820654850162 . You can ask questions in #salle-de-classe or #salle-de-classe-fr or have discussions in French in #français-débutant #français or #français-2 Additionally, you can participate in our voice channels, either by speaking or just listening. Moreover, the website Lawless French is full of precious French lessons!

https://www.lawlessfrench.com/learn-french/french-for-beginners/

stoic sable
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I recommend you follow this LawlessFrench link

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it's a collection of lessons in order from beginner level onwards

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the bot also explains the main channels in the server

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just so you know, duolingo is very bad at teaching languages. You can use it as a game and a source of motivation to keep being consistent, but you shouldn't consider it a serious learning tool

clever steppe
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Could you please tell me why? People say so but I dont understand why

stoic sable
# clever steppe Could you please tell me why? People say so but I dont understand why

absolutely
Duolingo doesn't want to make you think.

how do you say red? <rouge> <bleu>
just click on the button and feel validated. It's like candies. Sometimes you don't know, but most of the time you just regurgitate the logical answer without thinking. You can progress with that but it's very slow.

Efficient exercises are like "so now you have the tools, try to use them together in order to complete the objective"
You need to actually think and puzzle it out, it takes effort. In addition to that, this also helps your brain to carve things in your long term memory.

Also, Duolingo doesn't explain how things work and why things are the way they are. You are stuck in a loop of trying and regurgitating stuff which is extremely slow.

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plus it's becoming increasingly wrong and inaccurate due to the way it pushed AI services outside of its effictive range of use. You can't rely on it to actually teach accurate things

clever steppe
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Wow, severely well said. So that website would help me improve faster?

clever steppe
stoic sable
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what you need is:

  • grammar: how sentences are structured, rules of the language, explanation of why things are the way they are
  • vocabulary: the words of the language
  • experience: reading and listening to media
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When starting out, you should go for basic grammar and vocabulary. Get the fundations going.
There are good resources giving you the basic tools to get started on your own journey, including text and audio specifically tailored for beginners as native media is too hard to understand anything

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the link I provided is one such guide

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ultimately, you want to be able to interact with French media by yourself.
Reading, listening to stuff, talking to people. It doesn't matter if you can't understand everything.
As long as you can understand something, and you're motivated by it, you're going to progress.
Even better if you're taking notes of what you had trouble with (grammar or vocab) so you can check later

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Youtube, video games, social media, tiktok, series, anime, comics, anything interacting with the language is extremely good. You should just meet three conditions => be challenged, understand at least something, be motivated

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@clever steppe

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Lessons and exercises are the go-to at the very beginning, then media

clever steppe
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Wow, thanks a lot. Why chose to help people?

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Sorry for the late reply btw

stoic sable
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why am I on the server?

clever steppe
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Why chose to help someone?

stoic sable
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I joined the Japanese server as a learner and decided it would be fair to join the French server as a helper.
Plus it's always nice when other people are interested in your native language, and to see how other people react to what you've always taken for granted

clever steppe
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Love that, well thanks for the help truly