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[limber jay]

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[astral wind]

The -ci/-là difference only matters when you need a contrast: You're talking about this flower not that flower.

That aside, if you do want to use -ci/-là, the suffix is put at the end of the noun, not the determiner:
« Tu vois ces fleurs ? Je trouve qu'elles sont très belles, mais je préfère cette fleur**-ci** que cette fleur__-là__. »

Since the noun is already mentioned, you can also use the demonstrative pronouns:
« Tu vois ces fleurs ? Je trouve qu'elles sont très belles, mais je préfère celle-ci que celle-là. »

[lunar fjord]

I don't think cette-ci is a thing, at least, I've never heard it @eternal harness

[drifting rover]

"cette" is an adjective that requires a noun next to it

[peak wave]

What site/app is this?

[drifting rover]

looks like clozemaster

[eternal harness]

Oh, I got it. But this is only for nouns? In pronouns like celui-ci, ceux-ci, you don’t need always to make a comparison in order to make use of them, like in this example of yours

[eternal harness]

😭 clozemaster is teaching me wrongly

[astral wind]

Sorta

So for -ci specifically, yes you do need to make a comparison

but for -là, you can use this wherever to sort of accentuate your noun

If you know how ceci/cela work, it's basically the same since ceci/cela is just ce-ci/ce-là but it just got fossilised

so I can go « Il me casse les couilles, celui-là ! (He's annoying the fuck out of me, that guy!) » or « Je veux pas parler de cette meuf-là (I don't wanna talk about that chick) » without doing a comparison, and that's fine

but if I go, « Celui-ci, ça me fait rire », people are more likely to expect you to add « Celui-là » because, again, we use « -ci » for contrast a lot more

[lunar fjord]

i mean as long as it was the wrong option... it's probably trying to trip you up because cette-ci looks like celle-ci

[eternal harness]

And in this case, how would I do the same phrase, without needing to do a comparison afterwards?

I would use “ceci”?