Charagiste

[indigo tartan]

Please be patient

Our volunteers look into many questions every day; sometimes it takes them a little while to answer.

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Make it descriptive, including relevant context, but also to the point. This way you improve your chances of getting a more relevant and specific answer.

[tall dagger]

https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cloué wiktionnaire is my first stop for etymology

[mental rivet]

it's there on the page, cnrtl just isn't the most legible (it helps if you click on the etymology tab though)
wiktionary is generally much more legible and interactable though

[gaunt escarp]

Thank you... can you explain what 1170-85 cloer « fixer avec des clous » (G. de Berneville, St Gilles, 885 ds T.-L.). Dér. de clou*; dés. -er. means?

The number 1170-85??

And this part 885 ds T.-L.?

[mental rivet]

Sometime between the years 1170-1185

[gaunt escarp]

Thank you <3... And 885 ds T.-L?

[mental rivet]

885 is the line number for the preceding text it cites
ds T.-L. = dans Tobler-Lommatzsch (an old french dictionary)

[gaunt escarp]

Is there a manual on how to read cnrtl.fr? Because I also want to ask about Dér. de clou*; dés. -er But don't want to overwhelm you with questions 😬

[mental rivet]

Dér is dérivé

I'm not sure what dés. Is short for but it means it's a suffix

[gaunt escarp]

I see. Thank you :)

[mental rivet]

http://atilf.atilf.fr/tlf.htm

It's a lot easier to read when you already know french, since you can usually either guess the word entirely or take a solid guess on the meaning at least

I'd generally recommend going for wiktionary overall since it's a lot more accessible and you can usually click on a link to learn more, but it doesn't hurt to have multiple resources

[gaunt escarp]

Yeah having multiple resources is helpful :)

[old drift]

Désinence. 🙂