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[undone mountain]

First, some corrections for the text (language AND content, I imagine "Projet Pousse Verte" is something you invented for the presentation, so some comments take this into consideration):

• "Évidement, le but..." -> "Comme le nom l'indique, le but...". If you're presenting a project, it's because your audience doesn't know it. So if you say "Evidently, the goal is to...", either you imply that they already know what the project is about, or you imply that your audience is stupid because they don't know the goal of the project while it's supposed to be evident. Saying instead "Like the name implies, the goal is to..." doesn't have those connotations.
• "..., le but de ce projet est de rendre l'environnement plus propre et plus vert." Ok so you want a cleaner environment, so ig no pollution. What do you mean by a "greener environment"? It doesn't mean anything. The definition of "green" in the context of environment is "a) relating to or being an environmentalist political movement, b) concerned with or supporting environmentalism, c) tending to preserve environmental quality (as by being recyclable, biodegradable, or nonpolluting)" ― Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
• "Meme si la situation de environnement..." -> "Même si la sitation de l'environnement..."

• "... est mieux qu'avant, ..." -> "... s'est améliorée, ..." In daily talk "est mieux qu'avant" is fine, but for texts or presentations "s'est améliorée" is more researched and sounds better. But I do have a problem with the sentence as a whole: you say the environmental situation we have is better than the one we had before. What makes it better than before? Is it really better, or is that only the impression we have? I would change the sentence for something else, either with something like "because of [measures to protect environment], the situation seems better, but there are still important problems/serious issues" and then name them, or sth like that. Or simply "We might think that it got better, but there are still important problems/serious issues..."
• "... Le gaspillage des ressources, La pollution, Et le changement climatique." -> "... le gaspillage des ressources naturelles, la pollution, et les changements climatiques." Be careful with upper and lower case. Also in French we say "changements climatiques" in plural, because there are multiple changes in the climate, not just one. It is also good to precise that it's "natural resources" that are wasted, because resources can also be human or technological, for example. Lastly, I would say that climate change is not a problem, it's the consequence of the unanswered problems. If you want to talk about climate change, I would replace all the "situation is better now than before talk" by "with climate change becoming a pressing issue, environmental action becomes essential. Two problems that the project aims to solve are pollution and the waste of natural resources."

• "Pour cela, nous organisons trois activités principales : Des discussions pour comprendre comment protéger la nature, Des journées pour planter des arbres ensemble, Et une action simple : ne pas gaspiller la nourriture." -> "Pour cela, nous organisons trois activités principales : des discussions pour comprendre comment protéger la nature, des journées pour planter des arbres ensemble et, une action simple, ne pas gaspiller la nourriture." Again, careful with lower and upper cases. Don't have two ":" in the same sentence. You can play a bit with the structure/punctuation in the part with the 2nd ":", what I wrote is one way it could be said. That's for the language, now for the content, you have three activities: 1) discussions (I think it would be better if you talk about "sensibiliser le public aux enjeux environnementaux (damn that's a long word)/climatiques" by having discussions or holding workshops with members of the public maybe), 2) days to plant trees (I would rather say "plantations d'arbres", because the activity is planting trees, not the days spent doing that), and 3) not waste food. Not wasting food is not an activity, it's a habit/way of life. To have an activity related to preventing food wasting, you can maybe talk about communal fridges (like, if someone has a surplus of food, they can give it to the communal fridge so other people can eat it, instead of throwing it out), but even that is not an activity. Maybe workshops or cooking classes/activities where people learn to better manage their food waste (learn what they can do with it instead of throwing it out), etc. So with that, you can have three real activities. Now, you need to talk about how they align with the goal of the project, which is to have a cleaner and healthier environment. You talk about two problems (pollution and waste of natural resources). How do your activities contribute to solving those problems?

• "Ce sont des petites actions, mais très importantes." Nothing wrong with the sentence. But again, you need to explain your points. Why are small actions like that important?
• "Et si vous avez d'autres idées pour protéger la planète ou vous voulez participer à notre project, toute notre association vous accueille avec plaisir." -> "Si vous avez d'autres idées pour protéger la planète ou si vous voulez participer à notre projet, nous vous accueillerons avec plaisir." You talk about "project" all throughout the text, and now you talk about an association. They are not the same thing. Personal touch from my part, but I think saying "we will welcome you" is more personal and more amicable than saying "the association will welcome you".

• "C'est le [numbers]." Doesn't mean anything. I think it's a phone number? In that case, we would say sth like "Vous pouvez nous contacter par téléphone au [number]." or "Notre numéro de téléphone est le [number]."
• "Hésitez pas! Faisons avancer le Projet Pousse Verte ensemble. Voilà, merci beaucoup !" Those sentences feel like they don't really serve a purpose, they just fill up a hole. If you really wanna tell them not to hesitate calling you, I would combine it with the previous sentence, like "N'hésitez pas à nous contacter par téléphone au [number]." Since it's a presentation to an audience, formal speach is prefered: do not skip the "ne" in "ne... pas". If you want to invite the audience to action (by joining your project) and thank them, I would rather say sth like "thank you for taking interest in our project, and let's help/protect the environment together." This way it becomes more catchy, it will stick in people's head a lot more than just "thanks! join our project!". The "together" also implies a familiarity, like you're a family, a tight group, which is more inviting. Putting the emphasis on the "protect the environment part" also connects more with people: they don't care about your project, they care about helping the environment.

Fiou, that's a lot. After those corrections, if she still says it's AI, it's because she sees everything with a modicum of quality as AI.

[undone mountain]

Now second point: you say you wrote this with AI. I discourage the use of AI, especially for school assignments like this (you say it's a presentation, I imagine it's in the context of a French class?). It will greatly hinder your learning. The only way I see that you can use AI for your assignment is if you did all the following: 1) came up with the idea for the presentation and ALL the points to discuss by yourself, 2) wrote a first draft of your text by yourself (of course, with help of dictionary if necessary), 3) read it over at least once to see if you can find mistakes you made (language or structure of the text) and corrected them. Only then can you use AI to correct your text to see if you made any other mistakes. Learning takes work. If you skip it, what you "learn" simply just won't stick. If you just want to pass the class and don't care for the language or if you forget things, sure, skip the three steps and just use AI. But if you really want to learn, it's important you put in the work. Also, I wouldn't trust AI with the content of the text (by that, I mean the message, the arguments communicated), because, at least for now, AI can be very shallow or say nonsense, unless you really know how to use and push it. A lot of the "mistakes" or inconsistencies I found about content in the correction are things that, if you put a bit more thought into it, could have been avoided.

Ah, and also for oral presentations, I think learning a text like that by heart is really not optimal (you don't sound natural while you talk, and if you make a mistake once you risk a lot more to panic and lose track of where you are in the presentation). Making a plan, structuring your ideas and thinking about how you can best say certain things is good, because it will make your presentation more fluid and help you better communicate your ideas. But please don't just learn it by heart, you need to be more flexible and be able to adapt your discourse/presentation (ex: to audience, questions, time allowed...). But you do you

[gusty iron]

depending on your level of French, it could be extremely obvious that this was written with ai.

I don't know your level of French but all your teacher has to do is ask you to explain why you made certain choices and you won't be able to. For example, the first thing I would ask you is why did you use d'autres instead of des autres? and if you can't explain, boom ai

ironically a native could probably get away with just saying "it sounded better" but i don't think that's gonna fly here

I agree with what AB said, if you use ai to write things for you, you're stunting your growth. so if you care about actually learning french, don't do that. If all you care about is getting a good grade, nobody can stop you from doing what you please

I know it's hard to write on your own but it's that struggle that leads you to actually internalize the things you're learning, otherwise you're going to forget much faster

IMO It's fine to ask ai to explain things and to translate things and to role-play for practice but as soon as you start passing off AI words as your own, you're in trouble.

For example I sometimes use AI to help me write parts of my book, but I had to tell it to NEVER suggest prose to me because I could tell it was harming my ability to write. I don't ever put anything the ai suggests in my prose, I don't even want to see it write prose because it robs me of the ability to come up with things on my own

All i do is roleplay with it and ask it for feedback and advice for general writing techniques

Even reading an example that the AI writes for you can hurt you because you can't forget what the ai wrote. You can no longer write something 100% your own

[gusty iron]

I think it comes back to using the AI like a tutor: A good tutor would never ever write a full example presentation for you tailored exactly to your needs. That's not tutoring, that's just cheating.

A good tutor gives you feedback and makes you work to come up with things on your own.

Not because they couldn't write it for you if they wanted to, but because they know it wouldn't help you learn.

So yeah i recommend giving your ai some custom instructions to act more like a tutor in that regard

[bold bridge]

Omg, c’est très gentil, merci beaucoup ! I saw all of this. Thanks for your guidance! Sure, i agree with you. It’s just that I’m currently in the middle of finals week, hmmmm, and I want to finish preparing for my exams as quickly as possible. But! I did put effort into writing my presentations, and this is just one of them. For all of my presentations, I first come up with the idea and then write it completely myself. Since I’m short on time, there are many gaps in the work, and my French skills aren’t perfect, so I turned to AI to help me with the revisions. Then, I go through the changes and keep what I understand and can apply. So, there are definitely many flaws in this article, scratching my head jpg. Thank you so much for your guidance!!! I totally agree with what you said 🤓

[bold bridge]

Merciiiiiii! I know the importance of independent thinking. It’s just that I’m currently in the middle of finals week, hmmmm, and I want to finish preparing for my exams as quickly as possible. But! I did put effort into writing my presentations, and this is just one of them. For all of my presentations, I first come up with the idea and then write it completely myself. Since I’m short on time, there are many gaps in the work, and my French skills aren’t perfect, so I turned to AI to help me with the revisions. Then, I go through the changes and keep what I understand and can apply. So, there are definitely many flaws in this article, scratching my head jpg. Thank you so much for your guidance!!! I totally agree with what you said 🤓

[undone mountain]

Good luck with your finals!