#mr.moderino
pastel nacelle
coarse ridge
I don't even want to get started on that infamous ''Versai ici'' clip. I try immerse myself in French tik toks and some cartoons and they always speak lightning speed
kind root
it's mostly just an impression
there are some languages that tend to speak faster, but I don't think the difference between english and french should matter that much
when you don't understand a language well, your brain can't process all information and just gets overflown with what feels like thousands of words
it'll come with time
surreal fossil
plus with the « C'est pas Versailles ici ! » bit, that was just Élodie Poux speaking fast for a sketch
if you watch the rest of the sketch, she speaks pretty normally
If you watch this video, par exemple, they don't speak fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCuU4SjcS2A
coarse ridge
when you don't understand a language well, your brain can't process all informat...
Makes sense, to me English seems very slow and understandable and I always understand it from Australian, African, Canadian and American English
coarse ridge
If you watch this video, par exemple, they don't speak fast
https://www.youtube....
Will do merci beaucoup
surreal fossil
English can actually be rather fast, you just don't notice it as a native and also because of its nature as a stress-timed language
kind root
that's the fact that like in most romance languages, all syllables in a word are equal, right ?
vs english clearly accentuating some more than others which gives the impression of "breaks" in speech
surreal fossil
that's the fact that like in most romance languages, all syllables in a word are...
Right
Plus, English has all sorts of vowel and syllable reductions that French just doesn't have. Non-native English speakers would have a hard time with that
kind root
I feel like english speakers are somewhat at a disadvantage with that
if you take a french learner and an english learner, chances are the english learner will be easier to understand for most people
the lack of accents in french means the required clarity with vowels is very high, while in english you can get away with a lot more by just somewhat abiding to the language's flow
my favorite example of this is trying to speak by moving your mouth as little as possible when speaking english vs french
In english, I feel like I can barely move my mouth and still be fully intelligible, while in french, it just...doesn't really work
it's probably easier to go from a language with very open vowels to one with more so closed vowels than the opposite
surreal fossil
Probably yes
surreal fossil
Right
On this point, a bit of a correction: While Brazilian Portuguese is syllable-timed, European Portuguese is stress-timed
surreal fossil
Will do merci beaucoup
Another thing you'll notice is that there's a quite bit more of contractions in spoken French
For example, « je suis » becomes « chuis », « émission de télé » becomes « émission d'télé »
Schwas tend to get dropped but the rest of the sentence has clear vowels
molten vessel
English does this too all the time but you're already used to those contractions so they won't throw you off
timid dagger
there are some languages that tend to speak faster, but I don't think the differ...
https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/language-speed cites a study, but it only places French directly above English
coarse ridge
this is the study graphic
So French isn't the fastest langauge and actually in the middle and one spot above English?
molten vessel
of the ones they studied, based on the parameters used in the study yes
coarse ridge
How do you feel about the speed of French and English
Is it the same? Studies got it right?
molten vessel
personally I find them generally about the same
there are some individual french speakers I've known that speak a bit faster but it's nothing crazy
and english speakers can be like that too
coarse ridge
Makes sense I'm not falling along with French, I'm definitely A1