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zinc merlinBOT
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pale grove
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That reflexive makes it transitive

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Before I start, I should probably explain that transitivity means different things to English and French grammar. In English grammar, being transitive means having a direct object whereas in French grammar it just means having an object, be it direct or indirect. I assume you're using the English definition so I'll continue with that

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With that out of the way, « se sentir » is transitive because the reflexive is a direct object

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Transitive verbs will make agreement and it's clear when we use the passé composé in the third person :
« Il s'est senti content / Elle s'est senti__e__ content__e__ / Ils se sont sentis contents / Elles se sont senti__es__ content__es__ »
Notice also the adjective changing to agree with the subject

dark bane
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does that mean every reflexive verb form is transitive?

pale grove
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For example, « se parler » because the original verb is « parler à qqn »

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Elle s'est parlé (no agreement)

dark bane
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reading this article, I can totally understand the agreement with Pronominal Verbs, but I still don't get it why they are intransitive as you said. Earlier u also mentioned that being transitive in French grammar just means having an object, be it direct or indirect. This makes me think that all pronominal verbs are transitive because they all have the reflexive "se"

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In « Elle s'est parlé », I actually see the subject as an indirect object

pale grove
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Because when you asked about « sentir » being transitive only with 'to feel', that's wrong under French grammar

pale grove
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Elle s'est parlé => Indirect object, so agreement
Elle s'est adressée au maire => Direct object, agreement

pale grove
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Under French grammar, that would be classified as indirect transitive
Under English grammar, that would be classified as intransitive

dark bane