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gloomy coveBOT
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Please be patient

Our volunteers look into many questions every day; sometimes it takes them a little while to answer.

Pro tip: you can rename the thread title with `.tr <thread name>`

Make it descriptive, including relevant context, but also to the point. This way you improve your chances of getting a more relevant and specific answer.

hearty harness
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Persuasive: gives an opinion with supporting elements and arguments (meant to persuade the reader into an opinion)
Informative: gives factual information or information presented as fact (meant to inform the reader)

Use Wordreference if you're unsure of the meaning of a word - I suggest you look at both the "jeu" and "enjeu" entries to better understand what they mean

empty radish
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I know Jeux is mainly referring to games/ plays. I don't see how it applies to the text as it is given as one of the correct answer.
Same for the "informative" part. I interpret the article as persuasive - suggesting there are lots of information they can learn from the guide to help them on becoming a volunteer.
These are the points that are unclear to me.

hearty harness
# empty radish I know Jeux is mainly referring to games/ plays. I don't see how it applies to t...

I have no idea why "jeu" would be included in an answer key, as the text makes no mention of games. I would not include that in my answer.
Honestly, reading through the full text and responses, this just reminds me of standardized testing in English, where questions were often trying so hard to be "difficult" that they no longer made sense or were straight up incorrect
Is this from an official DELF test?

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@upper mural curious of your thoughts on this one

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I especially don't see how this would be B1, especially without going over the terminology used in the responses :/ if it is, it seems like it's relying heavily on the person having previous knowledge of these concepts and recognizing them because of similarities to English, or something

upper mural
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I've never done a DELF since I went straight to DALF... but this seems pretty cryptic to me, even as someone who has passed the DALF C2....

With the DELF tests it's my understanding that this type of question is how they go about it. They'll want you to be able to employ certain rules that are only ever really important in formal writing, know complex agreement rules, etc. Those things simply don't come up on the DALF... but with the DALF all the training wheels are taken off... you need to simply produce everything. So in some ways it's an easier test since you just need to show what you know... and for instance if you weren't sure if you should make a certain agreement in the written portion, you could simply reword your essay.

Regarding "jeux" and "enjeux" the question is clearly written to trip up people who don't understand that they're two fundamentally different words. Someone without the necessary level might just think "oh, it talks about 'enjeux' in the text... that must be like 'jeux' so I'll check that box." Likewise, you're supposed to understand that "des contacts" is a synonym for "adresses" and that "les grands enjeux écologiques" are synonymous here with "alertes"

hearty harness
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That was my impression as well
I likely would have been tripped up by "alertes" (in English as well) as I don't personally understand notices/information as "alerts" (especially not in tests where they can be incredibly particular about wording), but I can see how it could be interpreted that way. "Jeux" on the other hand seems to very clearly be meant to trip someone unfamiliar with "enjeux" up, so my best guess is that the answer key was not made by an official source?