#subjonctif

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Subjontif

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subjonctif

civic rivet
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je ne comprends pas cette exercise, c'est les questions de l'examen de 2022 de mon cours je prends maintenant

jovial nexus
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En effet, ce que tu dois faire c'est de mettre la phrase après le « que » en subjonctif tout en t'assurant que le temps s'accorde

civic rivet
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can you make an example that's not on here just to explain the concept svp?

jovial nexus
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Exemple:
(x) Tu pars
Il faut que…
On regarde le temps de la question. Est-ce qu'il est au présent ou au passé ? Ça, c'est important parce que le subjonctif ne concerne que le présent ou le passé ; le futur fait partie du présent. Ici, c'est le présent donc on utilisera le subjonctif présent :
Il faut que tu partes.

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(y) Tu as pris ta décision
Il faut que…
On regarde le temps de la question. Ici, c'est au passé puisque c'est au passé composé. Donc, on choisira le subjonctif passé :
Il faut que tu aies pris ta décision.

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(z) Tu partiras bientôt
Il est important que…
Au futur donc on utilisera le présent.
Il est important que tu partes bientôt.

jovial nexus
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Do you need the explanation in English?

civic rivet
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yes please! that would be awesome!

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I get where you're coming from when explaining it in french. However, the present and past tenses still confuse me.

jovial nexus
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In essence, what you're going to do is put the sentence in the question after the conjunction « que ». The subjunctive is triggered when there is a trigger, say « falloir, être important » and that conjunction « que ».

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Now, the subjunctive only comes in two tenses: the present and the past/perfect.

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The subjunctive tenses are unique because they are relational. Relational here means that which tense to use is relative to the event of the trigger.

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A bit wordy but here's an example:
« Il faut que tu sortes du magasin. »
Here, the usage of the present means that relative to the main clause « il faut », the subjunctive event has not happened; you are still in the store.

« Il faut que tu sois parti du magasin. »
Here, the usage of the past/perfect means that relative to the main clause « il faut », the subjunctive event has already happened; you have left the store.

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For example, if I have « tu pars » and « tu partiras », this sentence is in the present/future, meaning that this event is currently happening or will happen in the future; it HAS NOT FINISHED happening. Because of that, both gets folded into the subjunctive present:
« Il faut que tu partes. »
If I have « tu as pris ta décision », this sentence is in the past meaning that this event has already happened; it has occured and it HAS FINISHED happening. Because of that, it goes into the subjunctive past/perfect:
« Il faut que tu aies pris ta décision. »

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This idea of the subjunctive tenses being relative to the main clause is super important because it means that they don't change if the main clause changes tenses.

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« Il faut que tu partes / Il est important que tu aies déjà pris ta décision »

If I put the main clause in the past, the subjunctive tenses don't change because relative to the main clause, the event described in the subjunctive still has not or has happened.
« Il fallait que tu partes / Il était important que tu aies déjà pris ta décision »

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Likewise to the future:
« Il faudra que tu partes / Il sera important que tu aies déjà pris ta décision »

civic rivet
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ok got it! so in terms of the worksheet i provided a picture of, if we were to use that sentence as an example: would it be : Il est inutile qu'elles ont etudié toute la nuit?

jovial nexus
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Well, « il est inutile » requires the subjunctive

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That's first

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Second, look at the question

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« vont étudier » is the futur proche, is it not?

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Since this event has not happened, which tense would be appropriate?

jovial nexus
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Mmhm

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Good

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now conjugate « étudier » in the subjunctive present

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big hint: ||First group -er verbs have the same present subjunctive conjugations as their present indicatives except for the plural first and second||

civic rivet
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la phrase complete est: Il est inutile qu' elles étudient toute la nuit?