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cedar basinBOT
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dreamy wadi
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yeah so the thing is there are two main ways to count large numbers, known as short and long scale
they're pretty confusing, but basically English uses short scale while French uses long scale.

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meaning you can often have the same words in both languages (billion, trillion, etc)... but they are off by factor of thousands

stoic socket
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I think, numbers should be numbers and be universal smh

fluid pulsar
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okay that's good to know. is this something that i would get corrected on? or do people really care? if i was in france and i said this number 2,002,002,002,002,002,002,002,002,002. they would most likely expect me to say it in long scale form? also would this also apply to quebec too?

dreamy wadi
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oh, idk about quebec actually, but for France yes, although you can assume not all people are familiar with high end numbers to begin with

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when I was learning English and I first heard of billionaires I was pretty confused because I thought they weren't any
then I learned that what English calls billionaire is just "milliardaire" in French. Because my thought was what French calls billionaire, and it is actually "trillionaire" in English

fluid pulsar
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good to know. thx you. i have been trying to understands numbers in french so this helps. just got to find other things that will surprise me.

atomic siren
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By the way, you missed a few numbers in the long scale: deux quadrilliards deux quadrillions deux trilliards deux trillions deux billiards deux billions deux milliards deux millions deux mille deux.

hasty wagon
dreamy wadi
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oh right, that's the limit around which you can assume people might need clarification

fluid pulsar
hasty wagon
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It's really hard to mentally imagine numbers once you got to the tens of millions, regardless of whatever scale you use

fluid pulsar
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okay. i only knew short scale so long scale is a bit to wrap my head around. good to know

hasty wagon
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People think a billion is not that far off from a million, yet a million seconds is only 11 days whereas a billion seconds is like 31 years and 8 months or ~11,500 days

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For the most part, you're going to be dealing with 10^9-10^12 and personally as someone whose language is also using the short-scale, it's a mental switch personally

dreamy wadi
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(also got confirmation quebec French uses long scale as well)

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yeah the main difference to remember is this, but I guess if you wanna be fancy with it the rest applies as well