avoir and etre passe compose/perfect tense

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avoir and etre passe compose

avoir and etre passe compose/perfect tense

[lunar ember]

"why" - I don't know the historical reason, but as they're essentially verbs of state, possibly as they were considered closer to adjectives?
There are some verbs that use both - most of them will use "être" when intransitive (no direct object) and "avoir" when transitive (has direct object)

[gritty tulip]

ok so those that use both avoir and etre are ones that are sometimes said with reference to a direct object and sometimes not

[lunar ember]

"avoir" verbs also use être when made reflexive (though they otherwise still act like avoir verbs)

[lunar ember]

99.9% of true être verbs fall under DR MRS VANDERTRAMP rules, it's just a list of verbs that use être

There are only a few that aren't included, mostly bc they have different/inconsistent usage

[gritty tulip]

yeah i know i just want to know that when im making sentences which ones to use you know?

[lunar ember]

Wdym

[gritty tulip]

like if im making a sentence with a verb

that uses both avoir and etre

i need to figure out which one

would be correct

[gritty tulip]

so is this right?

[lunar ember]

If it has a direct object and isn't reflexive, you can safely use avoir

[gritty tulip]

ok

and if it doesnt have a direct object its likely etre?

[lunar ember]

No

I mean

If it's DR MRS VANDERTRAMP, yes

It will be être

[gritty tulip]

ok thanks

so like going up stairs is etre conjugation

[lunar ember]

I mean

It would depend on the sentence

[tidal heron]

"je suis monté à l'étage" (intransitive)
"j'ai monté les escaliers" (transitive)

when using a direct object, I believe the only verbs using être are reflexive verbs and verbs of state (devenir, rester...). they always use être.

there are a few verbs for which the auxiliary verb evolved over time so you can come across both but they're exceptions (disparaître)
apart from that, verbs conjugate with either "être" or "avoir", not both. But there are some cases that can force one auxiliary ("être" for pronominal verbs, or "avoir" for transitive verbs)

[exotic bear]

a lot of the words that use etre as the auxilary are "moving" verbs in a sense, or verbs that indicate going somewhere

obvioujsly its not a super consistent rule, but its something that helps me sometimes if i cant remember