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[spare hollow]

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[vestal wedge]

no idea, natives don't hear that

[buoyant lion]

oh.. Thank you @vestal wedge 🙂
I think you replied to another of my questions, thank you for that as well. I cannot find that one. 🙂

[whole panther]

Really?

They sound exactly the same

And the IPA transcription in Wiktionary gives the same vowel

assurer /a.sy.ʁe/
attention /a.tɑ̃.sjɔ̃/

[buoyant lion]

Hey @whole panther , could you please tell me what you google while searching ipa pronunciations ? THank you so much !!!

[whole panther]

Just look it up in Wiktionary

https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/assurer
https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/attention

[vestal wedge]

well theyre the same phoneme but maybe theyre pronounced differently because of the consonant that comes after or whatever

[whole panther]

Sure but it would still come up in the transcription. That’s why « tu aimes » has /ty ɛm/ but « vous aimez » has /vu.z‿ɛm ~ vu.z‿em/ to mark both variants

Perhaps it’s dialectical?

[whole panther]

How did you come by this conclusion of the two said differently? Any context?

[vestal wedge]

yes

with slashes it's phonological transcriptions

so just the phonemes