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Is it nous disons aux enfants << donnons-nous vos cahiers!>>

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donnons would be the first person plural (let us give)

Who is this addressing, the speaker themselves or the children?

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So donnez?

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yup

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So its nous disons aux enfants << donnons-nous vos cahiers!>>

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… no

you're still using « donnons » when I explicitly told you not to

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Is it nous disons aux enfants << donnez-nous vos cahiers!>>

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exactly

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mb i just copy pasted that

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donnons-nous vos cahiers = let us give your notebooks to ourselves

doesn't make sense does it

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But imperatif should not have subject right

In direct form

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Grammatically yeah but it depends on who you're pointing towards

J'ai dit à Julia : « Dis-moi la vérité ! »
It's « dis » because I'm addressing Julia

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I kinda understand , we say it directly so leurs into vos

But its kinda weird for it to have vous conjugation for nous subject

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well no

Do you think it's weird that my example has a toi conjugation for a moi subject?

The imperative depends on who you are addressing aside from the first person plural « nous »

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Ye i know nous wont change

In direct

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no it's more like

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Cuz its starting with that

nous disons

Same speaker

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dis la vérité => you're saying to that one person to whom you are talking to say the truth
disons la vérité => you're saying to yourselves or a group of people to say the truth
dites la vérité => you're saying to those multiple people to whom you are talking to say the truth

so « nous » addresses a group which may include you as well

In this instance, you're talking to the children, not to you + the children

so it's donnez

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oh

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« Donnez-nous vos cahiers (Give us your notebooks) »

Donnons-nous vos cahiers would be, as I've said, 'Let us give ourselves your notebooks'

which doesn't make sense

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Ye this makes sense

I kinda suck at translating

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don't worry

there's a reason why translating is an art

and why translators are a job that you have to train for and not something you can just pick up