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[dreamy tree]

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[orchid dove]

I tend to agree with you.
A partitive shouldn't exist in the plural, theoretically. However, when the noun only exists in the plural (as in your first example) you have a partitive.
Same goes for des rillettes (some sort of French pâté))

[plush timber]

No it depends of what’s the word before the nominal group for example : in “une partie des épinards”, “des” is an partitive article but when you say “je mange des épinards”, “des” is an indefinite article

[spring moat]

Dans "une partie des épinards" c'est de+les

C'est autre chose

[tulip scaffold]

Wait that’s so confusing

I thought “des epinards” will always have des acting as a partitive because “spinach” is like uncountable mass noun thingo

And when des is used as “some” for a countable thing (like onions), it’s actually acting as an indefinite article

Which is super confusing bec the example of des here seems like it’s actually an indefinite article? Or am I tweaking