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edgy sluice
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What you’ve done there is conjugate it twice. « sortiez » is the imperfect.

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The passé composé is avoir/être conjugated in the present plus the past participle, so what you need is the past participle of « sortir »

gray ivy
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hello how do i know what pronoun to use?

edgy sluice
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Do you know what these pronouns mean?

gray ivy
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i kinda understand the pronouns but what do i match it up with?

edgy sluice
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I've missed the adverbials, sorry

edgy sluice
# gray ivy i kinda understand the pronouns but what do i match it up with?

« L'avocat reçoit-il son client dans la salle de réunion ? »
We see here two objects: « son client, dans la salle de réunion ». « y », the one already filled in, replaces complements of place. For example, if we have the sentence, « je vais entrer dans la cuisine pour cuisiner des repas », the underlined part is a place that we can replace with « y » to make « je vais y entrer pour cuisiner des repas ».

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So now the question is: what is « son client » ? Is it a direct object or an indirect object? If it's direct, what gender does it have? How much is it?

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Don't forget also that « y » is also a vowel so remember the rules about contractions

gray ivy
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Is it indirect?

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How is your a vowel isn’t it a e I o u?

edgy sluice
edgy sluice
gray ivy
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Ohh

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I did not know that

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Um I’m not really sure but you have to read the sentence to figure it out right

edgy sluice
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Right

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basically, the difference between a direct and indirect object is if there's a preposition before the noun

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that's it

gray ivy
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Oh

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Bruh my teacher said it was in the reading

edgy sluice
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Take these two sentences:
« J'aime les fruits »
« Je pense à mon père »

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The first sentence is direct because there's nothing before the noun, articles notwithstanding

gray ivy
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Les?

edgy sluice
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The second is indirect because there is a preposition before, « à »

edgy sluice
gray ivy
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Ohh

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Okay

edgy sluice
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since nouns generally require articles before them, you can think of them as a single unit

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it's a good way to avoid English's habit of dropping articles

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like don't just think, 'I want tea'
think, 'I want some tea'

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because French does « je veux du thé » and not just « *je veux thé »

gray ivy
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what is du?

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of

edgy sluice
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read the article please

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the blue part

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click on it

gray ivy
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oh mb

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i found out that du is masculine singular and that its a partitive article

edgy sluice
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yup because « thé » is a masculine noun

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but anyway

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The point is that there's a preposition in the second and none in the first, which what differentiates them

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another example

gray ivy
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so je veux thé is indirect?

edgy sluice
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du is an article

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NOT a preposition

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so it's direct

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« Anne veut parler de Jean. Elle pense qu'il a pris son stylo. »
What are the indirect and direct objects?

gray ivy
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direct= the first sentence?

edgy sluice
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try again

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big hint: ||« de » is a preposition||

gray ivy
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since de is a prepostion and its before a noun, "Jean," its a indirect sentence

edgy sluice
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indirect object

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okay good

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the direct?

gray ivy
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the first part

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first sentence

edgy sluice
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Which one?

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Be clear.

gray ivy
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waittt

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isn't the second sentence direct b/c there isn't a prepositon before stylo?

edgy sluice
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You got it!

gray ivy
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ayyy

edgy sluice
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Another example:
« Tu te bats pour ta république ? Moi, je fais la même chose. »

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What are the objects?

gray ivy
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republique

edgy sluice
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You have to be specific here

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république is what, indirect or direct?

gray ivy
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ohh, republique is an direct object?

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im guessing ta isn't a prepositon

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pronoun

edgy sluice
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« ta » is a possessive

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(your)

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Behind that?

gray ivy
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huh

edgy sluice
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right so you have « ta république (your republic) » good

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is there a preposition behind it?

gray ivy
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in the next sentence?

edgy sluice
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In that sentence

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« Tu te bats pour ta république ? »

gray ivy
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no

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i don't think so

edgy sluice
gray ivy
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pour is a preposition 😮

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i did not know that

edgy sluice
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In general, the structure of nouns is like

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article/posssessive + (adjective) + noun + (adjective)

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so if you see anything preceding the article/possessive that isn't a verb, chances are it's a preposition

gray ivy
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👍🏻 thanks

edgy sluice
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Of course, adverbs can complicate things as they're placed after verbs

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but you can generally spot them

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for example, if they end in -ment, chances are it's an adverb like
« Je vois vraiment Anna » or something

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In any case, let's go back to your original sentence:
« L'avocat reçoit-il son client dans la salle de réunion ? »
« y » is a type of indirect object pronoun which fits because « dans la salle de réunion » is an indirect object; it's a noun (la salle de réunion) preceded by a preposition (dans). Now, what might « son client » be ?

gray ivy
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posessive?

edgy sluice
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« son » is a possessive yes

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son client = his/her client (in this case it's 'his' because « avocat » is masculine)

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Is there a preposition behind it?

gray ivy
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ya

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dans

edgy sluice
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What is it?

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Not the « dans la salle de réunion », we've covered that one already

gray ivy
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in

edgy sluice
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since we've already replaced it with « y »

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I'm asking just about « son client »

gray ivy
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oh

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so no

edgy sluice
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Right so is it direct or indirect?

gray ivy
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its direct

edgy sluice
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What is its gender and number?

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Masculine, feminine? Singular, plural?

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You have three choices for direct objects:
(1) le = masculine singular/one object
(2) la = feminine singular/one object
(3) les = masculine AND feminine plural/many object

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Which one fits « son client »

gray ivy
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singular mas

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le

edgy sluice
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Okay, now « y » is a vowel

gray ivy
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ya

edgy sluice
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which means le and y are going to contract

gray ivy
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for locations

edgy sluice
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which makes?

gray ivy
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le y

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?

edgy sluice
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le + enjeu = l'enjeu

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so le + y = ?

gray ivy
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l'y

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ohh its a vowel

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i get it now

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whatt thanks you

edgy sluice
gray ivy
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im just a little slow..

edgy sluice
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That's fine

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just read slowly

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don't skim

edgy sluice
gray ivy
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yep

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what about for

edgy sluice
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« en » replace inanimate (not living) indirect objects starting with the preposition « de »

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The structure of this verb is « s'occuper de quelque chose » so we have a « de + les tâches »

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This is also why knowing your verbal structures are very important because « du/de la/de l'/des » can either be the partitives « du lait, de la nourriture, de l'eau, des chaises » or the preposition « de » plus the definite articles « le, la, les »

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« Je veux des livres. »
« J'ai envie des livres. »
The first sentence is a partitive because the structure of « vouloir [quelque chose] » is direct; it is not followed by a preposition which you can tell because after vouloir is « quelque chose (something) ». The second sentence isn't a partitive because the verbal structure here is « avoir envie de [quelque chose] »; it is followed by a preposition because before the object is the preposition « de »

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Therefore, their translations are also different:
« Je veux des livres. » => I want some books
« J'ai envie des livres. » => I want the books [literal translation: I have want of the books]

gray ivy
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ya I get that part

edgy sluice
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Right so in essence:
« Je me suis occupé des tâches => Je m'en suis occupé »