#“We run this place” in French

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cerulean matrix
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How about you give it a try first?

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Hint: The verb you're looking for is ||diriger (to lead) / gérer (to manage)||

random sparrow
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Les Lakers dirigent cette ville

cerulean matrix
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Okay okay good just some minor correction

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« une place » is a false friend of the English 'place', it's more commonly translated as 'a square/plaza'. For that, you're looking for « un lieu/un endroit » with the latter (endroit) being preferred if it's more of a building whereas « lieu » is more abstract

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and it's « on gère », the accent is the other way around

random sparrow
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Tu diriges ce server, boss

candid stag
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and nothing else

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candid stag
winter solsticeBOT
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“We run this place” in French

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candid stag
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and there's a slight difference between diriger and gérer

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i would translate diriger as to lead, and gérer to manage 🤔

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depending on what you want to express, the choice of the verb would be different

random sparrow
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so for, let's say, "We run these streets"

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do we use «diriger» or «gérer»

candid stag
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i would say "on gère ce quartier/ces rues/cet endroit"

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because the rightful ownership of the streets goes to the gov

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while these people, (mafia, gangs or just the owner of these shops), they rule the place, but they don't own the street

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idk if im clear

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i would only say "je dirige cet endroit" if im the owner of the shop, compagny etc

random sparrow
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then what about this:

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"I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN"

cerulean matrix
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I had suggested both because I didn’t have context

candid stag
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candid stag
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although a president doesn't have the ownership of a country

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he does indeed lead and make the rules

cerulean matrix
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since he’s asking them to elect him as president

candid stag
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and via democracy (or not) does have a temporary ownership of the country

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cerulean matrix
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the american president is the head of government and state

candid stag
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and that's called legitimacy

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candid stag
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but that's politics and that's hors sujet un peu

cerulean matrix
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I didn’t see your reply, I’ve been kinda out of it lately

candid stag
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so yeah, a politician does lead a country so it's "diriger"

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it would be a tiny bit weird for "un président qui gère un pays"

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bc you don't manage, you should lead and make decision

random sparrow
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alright let me try it in French

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«Je pense que tu devrais me laisser diriger le pays, tu diriges CNN.» — Donald J. Trump

candid stag
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yes

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but it sounds weird

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candid stag
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idk if it's your translation or trump's english being trash idk

candid stag
random sparrow
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nah his comment doesn't sound weird so it must be my French

candid stag
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no seriously it sounds a tiny bit weird but i can't think of a better way to translate it

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it's the latter part of "tu diriges CNN" that bothers me a bit

cerulean matrix
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« Je pense que vous devriez me laisser diriger le pays pendant que vous gérez le CNN »

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or

candid stag
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better, but it should be ehhh. more direct?

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like

cerulean matrix
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« Je pense que vous devriez me laisser diriger le pays et que vous devriez vous occuper du CNN »

candid stag
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mieux

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but

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does trump address people in general or a specific person ?

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no i worded my question weirdly

cerulean matrix
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specific person

candid stag
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is he being formal or casual while speaking to the dude ?

cerulean matrix
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I understood it as formal given the context

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he is a presidential candidate answering a journalist

candid stag
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bc choosing to address someone as tu and vous is a big deal still when you are a politician, i feel

random sparrow
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oh shit i found Le Monde's version of translation fam

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2018

cerulean matrix
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it still makes sense

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and « diriger » for both also since it's in the context of ruling over something

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I will rule over the nation while you rule over CNN

candid stag
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oh le monde chose to emm couper en deux la phrase 🤔

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slice into two? break the sentence ? ??

candid stag
cerulean matrix
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yes break the sentence

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