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[mighty gull]

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[eager helm]

Same general reason as English.
French spelling, like English spelling, has kind of remained stuck in time, which over time has led to letter combinations that used to be pronounced differently collapsing into a single sound in the modern spoken language. The spelling was never updated to reflect how the pronunciation changed.

English spelling is actually much more unpredictable than French spelling in that regard.

For example, in English you can spell the long "ee" sound as:
"ee" (a bee),
"ea" (the sea),
"ei" (receive),
"ie" (a piece),
"i" (machine),
"e" (Steve),
"oe" (phoenix),
"ey" (key)

I can't think of a sound in French that can be spelled in so many different ways.

I guess some nasal vowels do have lots of variations.
/ɛ̃/:
"in" (matin)
"im" (simple)
"yn" (synchroniser)
"ym" (sympathique)
"en" (moyen)
"ain" (main)
"aim" (faim)
"ein" (peintre)
"eim" (Reims)

[smoky silo]

yes and i find this very illogical somehow hhhhh, like some words like "Manger" have an "o" sound where there is an "a", and for the word "Montagne" it clear and have a similar sound, others have and "e" for "i" and this make me lose my mind, some have the combined vowels, to make a sound that a single one can do, is there a way to learn, like how do people do to learn, do they memorize the spelling of the words, and learn them by heart, or they write it down so many times to learn it.

and if a person don't know how a new word is spelled, what they do to learn it, because when you ask a person that have a good level in spelling to spell a word that they don't know, they make mistakes too, so there no way to know how exactly a word is spelled, even after learning some lessons for phonetics, like how sounds are made, that doesn't always solve the problem.

like you need to at least see it once, write it once, and hear it once (at least according to some technics), like some words that have the "gn" thing, if a word do contain it, some people write it without for the first time after hearing it, then they need to remember that word have the "gn", and sometimes they forget, is this a normal thing, and how to do to solve this problem.

for example, how do kids learn to write, when they start studying at school, what is the process that they use ?

[eager helm]

You mostly need to learn and remember how each word is spelled. French spelling is relatively regular, in such a way that you can usually guess how a word is pronounced based on its spelling, but you are correct that there is no easy way to guess how a word is spelled based on its pronunciation.

How did you learn to write all these English words you are writing?

English spelling is more irregular than French spelling, yet you don't seem to have much trouble spelling English words.

[smoky silo]

thank you so much for your replay, i find it very easy to learn the spelling of words in English

so the key is to learn and remember them, because sometimes when i hear a new word, i feel like i must be able to spell it without mistakes, and when i forget how basic words are spelled, i lose all hope for learning french spelling.

for listening, understanding and speaking it is easy for me, the only problem is for writing (spelling the words)

[tall iris]

French spelling is regular compared to English. If you hear a word, you can't necessarily spell it but if you read a word, you can definitely pronounce it. In English, you can't do either.

[tall iris]

You have to learn the combinations because « a » in « manger » is a nasal vowel whereas the « a » in « montagne » isn't. The presence of that consonant (n/m) followed by a consonant makes it nasal.

[smoky silo]

thank you for your help, but i find it difficult to remember every single word spelling, and what confuse me is how do people do to learn them, what is the method to do it.

sometimes, i forget the spelling of some words, and i think this isn't normal hhhh, because i make mistakes in the spelling of some words that i learned, and for this, i think that people do actually memorize the spelling, and use some other tips and tricks to remember them.

[tall iris]

There's learning and there's retention. It is easy to learn but hard to retain, yes, and for that a lot of it just comes down to using the language again and again. However, I will say that the fact that the orthography is more or less consistent will help you. For example, if the first letter is « e », it will never be « è » unless it's a closed syllable like « ère ». You can take a look here

[smoky silo]

thank you so much, so I think that the problem is of retention, i did check the website and it's helpful, and found something that i want to ask about, i found the word "le remplaçant" and i'm thinking why " çant" when the word " Cent" have the exact same sound, if it was the first time that i heard the word i'll write it like "le remplacent" because it's more logical if you see what i mean, so for your answer about the nasal vowels, is there something for this too.

so in other words, i think that I'm not learning how to write properly, i think i don't have good enough resources to learn how to write, or i'm not learning the right way.

[tall iris]

Well it doesn't. This is where knowing the language also helps : « remplacent ([they] replace » is the third person plural present of the verb « remplace [to replace]r » and third person plurals are identical with their singulars for first group -er verbs so « remplace / remplacent » have the same pronunciation : /ʁɑ̃.plas/.
« remplaçant [replacing] » is the gerund version of the verb and the pronunciation is different: /ʁɑ̃.pla.sɑ̃/.

Why that ç instead of c? That's orthography. French C and G are 'soft' when followed by front vowels like I or E like « ciel /sjɛl/, géant /ʒe.ɑ̃/ », becoming an S and a CH sound in English. When followed by any other vowel, they remain 'hard' with a hard K and G sound like « camion /ka.mjɔ̃/, goût /ɡu/ ». So, if you have a soft C or G followed by a non-front vowel, you have to change the spelling. C gets a little tail and becomes Ç which we call the « la cédille » whereas G is often added the letter E to render it soft.

As an example, I'll take the verbs « commencer » and « manger ». As you can see, C and G are followed by a front vowel so they remain soft. Conjugation is fine until we hit « nous » since that person's conjugation ends in -ons. Uh oh, -ons is not a front vowel so how do we render that soft? For commencer, we swap the C with the Ç and for manger, we add an E.
Example with a normal verb like « parler » : « nous parlons, vous parlez »
« commencer » : « nous commençons, vous commencez »
« manger » : « nous mangeons, vous mangez »

[smoky silo]

thqnk you so much, this actually really helped me understand it, i need some good resources to learn this, do you have some that can help me.