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[flint heath]

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[heavy jasper]

So, ultimately it can take both, to insist on the action (avoir) or the state (être).

In practice, you'll generally see être though, in order to avoid hiatus https://vitrinelinguistique.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/23848/la-grammaire/le-verbe/auxiliaires/emploi-des-auxiliaires-avec-le-verbe-apparaitre

[static oriole]

in practice it's "être" 99% of the time (at least in France)

[sour field]

oh, interesting, i didn't know that verbs could take both etre/avoir without changing the meaning of the phrase! Thanks a lot! ❤️

[static oriole]

also note that inversely "disparaître" mostly uses "avoir"

[crimson juniper]

Just for this set, the vast majority of verbs either take one or the other and not both

[sour field]

oh really? interesting, thank you!

[static oriole]

"être disparu" exists but focuses on the state of being missing, as an adjective

[heavy jasper]

the oqlf also has an article on this one lol. i enjoy their note at the end https://vitrinelinguistique.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/23850/la-grammaire/le-verbe/auxiliaires/emploi-des-auxiliaires-avec-le-verbe-disparaitre

être + disparaître shouldn't be considered a mistake but a nuance that enriches the language

[crimson juniper]

« paraitre » and its prefixed forms like « apparaitre, disparaitre » can take either « avoir/être » to insist on the action or the result respectively but we see a tendency for them to use « avoir » except for « apparaitre » which tends to use « être ».

It's a special case, verbs don't go être for just euphonics, otherwise « abandonner/abattre » would use « être » and they don't

[wispy quarry]

Can u help