rishfish.

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[kind oar]

the second one

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Why is the first one wrong

[kind oar]

if an adjective normally follows the noun, such as « mûres » in our case, then it also follows the noun when it’s in superlative form

for example, you wouldn’t say “la plus intéressante question”

instead, you’d say “la question la plus intéressante”

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Oh thank you very much I got it

[kind oar]

no problem 👍

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So the adjectives are only placed before the noun when we have to describe someone's beauty, age, goodness or size right?

[kind oar]

if you had an adjective that precedes the noun, such as « grand », « beau », « nouveau », etc…, you can either place the superlative before or after the noun

both are equally correct

however, placing the superlative before the noun is stronger and more emphatic

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But wouldn't it change the meaning of the sentence

[kind oar]

no

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Not in the case of superlatives but otherwise I suppose it would?

[kind oar]

for example, you could say…

• Le plus grand arbre
• L’arbre le plus grand
  notice that if the superlative is placed before the noun, there’s only one definite article

[kind oar]

i don’t think it changes the meaning though

the two examples i provided above mean the exact same thing lol

do you have an example where you think the meaning might change?

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Look for example
Ma voiture est propre - my car is clean
J'ai ma propre voiture - I have my own car

[kind oar]

well, here you can’t make a superlative adverb out of “own”

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Another example might be
Cet homme est grand - this man is tall
C'est un grand homme - he is a great man

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Yeah I'm not talking about the superlative in that case

I'm asking normally

[kind oar]

hmm…

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Without the superlatives

[kind oar]

ah okay

well, yes

some French adjectives can change meaning depending on their placement

just like in the examples you provided

here’s a page that lists most of these adjectives

https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/movable-adjectives/

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So in the superlatives it's always factually correct to put the adjective before the noun?

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Okay so you put it after the noun

You said put it before the noun earlier 😭

[kind oar]

i said you put the superlative after the noun if the adjective comes after the noun 😭

and that you can put the superlative either after or before the noun if the adjective can go before the noun

[kind oar]

it’s what is written here

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If the adjective comes before the noun then will it be stronger and emphatic if we put the superlative before the noun

[kind oar]

yep

[fickle seal]

Or does it not matter

Rahhhh I get it now

I appreciate you a lot for helping me with this 🙏