#Drago「Corrigez-moi」
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i think if you're close enough or casual enough to be writing tkt, then you wouldn't vouvoyer them, and if you would vouvoyer them, you wouldn't feel comfortable writing tkt
I don't think it'd shock me
Kinda like how you can say "allez" to someone you tutoie
But ultimately depends on the relationship imo and why you're vouvoying them
Since it is still quite informal
Mainly just because I haven’t talked to them before ig 😓
Online..?
Yeah 
What's your relationship to them
Discord
use toi
Just discord? Tutoie 100%
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tkt
You can occasionally come across natives who don't like to tutoie online, but it comes off as stuck-up imo
🫠 oh nooo
Makes em sound like they're 60+ or trying to sound that old
yeah, stuck up or just old fart lmao
Yeah
Alright I’ll ask them if I can switch to tutoying them oml 😭
one nuance: if you also know the person in real life and would use vous with them, then it's normal to use vous online
but if it's just a random person on discord, it's totally normal to use tu right from the get-go
👀 I see! Thanks so much for the input everyone. I’ll try to keep this in mind for next time 🙇♂️
Here's the chart ✨
It's surprisingly accurate lol
Even natives get a bit confused sometimes, I've had a few different natives mix vouvoiement + tutoiement in a single message while talking to me
And had a friend (native speaker) whose neighbour (also native speaker) went from tutoiement to vouvoiement with him and he was so excited lol
👀 oh wait whaa, wouldn’t that imply the relationship becoming more distant?!
In this case he said he felt respected, neighbour was much older, friend was like 20-21
So it was like going from seeing him as a kid to an adult kinda
Vouvoiement isn't always more distant than a tutoiement relationship, though there is some sense of distance ya
It's kind of like stepping back to give someone space
It could be taken as "we are not close enough to be physically closer, our personal space bubbles are bigger" or "I respect you and am giving you the space I feel you deserve" if that makes sense?
For example in the movie « Intouchables », the main characters consistently vouvoie each other even though they are close friends and are relatively informal with each other, in part bc they have an employer/employee relationship
It's a rly complex topic where it ultimately comes down to the individuals and how they experience the relationship. There are ofc some guidelines but there'll almost always be some natives doing some other weird shit w it just cuz they view their relationships a bit differently
It's also heavily cultural haha, I shared the fact many times but to me respecting teachers often comes with tutoying them, while I vouvoie them beforehand
In France you'd never tutoie a teacher, and it'd be seen as a big lack of respect to do so
Yeah I noticed that when I talked to a prof from Quebec actually haha. Idk why but when I speak I have a way stronger tendency to absentmindedly tutoie other people, but she was cool with it
some people here actually do not even know how to vouvoie at all
Or ig you didn't specifically say it, but she was like "We tutoie everyone in Quebec it's all good" kekw