#Drago「Corrigez-moi」

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scarlet iglooBOT
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dreamy plaza
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i think if you're close enough or casual enough to be writing tkt, then you wouldn't vouvoyer them, and if you would vouvoyer them, you wouldn't feel comfortable writing tkt

loud hill
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I don't think it'd shock me

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Kinda like how you can say "allez" to someone you tutoie

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But ultimately depends on the relationship imo and why you're vouvoying them

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Since it is still quite informal

fierce adder
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Mainly just because I haven’t talked to them before ig 😓

loud hill
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Online..?

fierce adder
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Yeah missydoge

loud hill
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What's your relationship to them

fierce adder
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Discord

dreamy plaza
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use toi

loud hill
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Just discord? Tutoie 100%

fierce adder
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A h

dreamy plaza
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tkt

loud hill
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Where's my tutoiement chart

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1 sec

distant wing
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You can occasionally come across natives who don't like to tutoie online, but it comes off as stuck-up imo

fierce adder
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🫠 oh nooo

loud hill
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Makes em sound like they're 60+ or trying to sound that old

distant wing
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yeah, stuck up or just old fart lmao

loud hill
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Yeah

fierce adder
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Alright I’ll ask them if I can switch to tutoying them oml 😭

distant wing
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one nuance: if you also know the person in real life and would use vous with them, then it's normal to use vous online

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but if it's just a random person on discord, it's totally normal to use tu right from the get-go

fierce adder
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👀 I see! Thanks so much for the input everyone. I’ll try to keep this in mind for next time 🙇‍♂️

fierce adder
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Saved. Thank you so much blobheart blobheart

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missydoge I love the righthand part haha

loud hill
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It's surprisingly accurate lol

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Even natives get a bit confused sometimes, I've had a few different natives mix vouvoiement + tutoiement in a single message while talking to me

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And had a friend (native speaker) whose neighbour (also native speaker) went from tutoiement to vouvoiement with him and he was so excited lol

fierce adder
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👀 oh wait whaa, wouldn’t that imply the relationship becoming more distant?!

loud hill
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In this case he said he felt respected, neighbour was much older, friend was like 20-21

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So it was like going from seeing him as a kid to an adult kinda

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Vouvoiement isn't always more distant than a tutoiement relationship, though there is some sense of distance ya

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It's kind of like stepping back to give someone space

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It could be taken as "we are not close enough to be physically closer, our personal space bubbles are bigger" or "I respect you and am giving you the space I feel you deserve" if that makes sense?

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For example in the movie « Intouchables », the main characters consistently vouvoie each other even though they are close friends and are relatively informal with each other, in part bc they have an employer/employee relationship

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It's a rly complex topic where it ultimately comes down to the individuals and how they experience the relationship. There are ofc some guidelines but there'll almost always be some natives doing some other weird shit w it just cuz they view their relationships a bit differently

solar nexus
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It's also heavily cultural haha, I shared the fact many times but to me respecting teachers often comes with tutoying them, while I vouvoie them beforehand

In France you'd never tutoie a teacher, and it'd be seen as a big lack of respect to do so

fierce adder
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missydoge Yeah I noticed that when I talked to a prof from Quebec actually haha. Idk why but when I speak I have a way stronger tendency to absentmindedly tutoie other people, but she was cool with it

solar nexus
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some people here actually do not even know how to vouvoie at all

fierce adder
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missydoge Or ig you didn't specifically say it, but she was like "We tutoie everyone in Quebec it's all good" kekw