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hazy arrowBOT
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spiral olive
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it's called "euphonic t"

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it doesn't mean anything, it's just there because "m'obsède-elle" would be less harmonic to pronounce

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it happens in inversions, with il/elle/on, when the verb ends with an a or an e

tropic girder
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So the “elle” in this case would still mean “her”? So if I were to translate it literally, it would be something like “Why this girl, I obsess (over) her?”

spiral olive
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oh and i didn't reply to your other question, yes "Pourquoi suis-je obsédé par cette fille" is right has the same meaning

spiral olive
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No real difference in the meaning

tropic girder
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Ah okay so same meaning. I guess the structure of it also kinda throws me off. But I’m assuming it’ll become more natural to me as I immerse more.

crystal kestrel
# spiral olive it doesn't mean anything, it's just there because "m'obsède-elle" would be less ...

Just pointing out that there is nothing more or less harmonic about “obsède-elle”. The word “hirondelle” which ends with the same string of sounds isn’t considered “ugly” or “unharmonic”. People don’t correct it to “hironde-telle”

The only reason the T is there in “obsède-t-elle” is because all third person verb forms used to end with a T in old French, and for most verbs it was lost in all positions except for the subject-verb inverted form.

spiral olive
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mhm

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why is it called euphonic then

crystal kestrel
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And if you don’t add the T, it doesn’t sound unharmonic, it sounds “wrong” because it is wrong. It’s a grammar mistake, which always sounds wrong

crystal kestrel