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[real warren]

« ...mais personne ne l'a remarqué »

since the negative pronoun « personne » is used, we also need to use the negative adverb « ne »

this happens with all negative constructions
e.g.

• ne... pas
• ne... plus
• ne... jamais

[left ginkgo]

i thought personne by itself meant nobody tho?

or does it literally have to be by itself, eg

qui est ici? -> who is here
personne. ->nobody

?

[frigid kelp]

In a sentence with a verb, “personne” requires “ne”.

[ruby vigil]

don't think of it in terms of direct translation

[frigid kelp]

Je ne vois personne, et personne ne me voit

Regardless of whether it’s an object or a subject

[gloomy fjord]

Oui

Used solely it means the negative but in a sentence it requires ne

[left ginkgo]

why is it after personne though 😭

[ruby vigil]

it always goes before the verb

[left ginkgo]

ohhh

[ruby vigil]

regardless of where peresonne is

[frigid kelp]

Because “ne” goes before the verb.

[gloomy fjord]

Tu as vu la tour Eiffel ?
Jamais.

[left ginkgo]

okay i understand :] thank you all

[gloomy fjord]

Wow i'd never seen it that way

[ruby vigil]

ne?

[gloomy fjord]

how you explained it

It was explained differently to me

("always goes before the verb")

[ruby vigil]

how was it explained to you

[gloomy fjord]

Just that when the second element of a negation like jamais or rien is the subject of the phrase, it goes to the beginning of the sentence instead of after the verb .

[ruby vigil]

that's talking about rien, personne, etc. and seems fine

i mean when anything is the subject of a sentence it goes before the verb (well not always)