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iron spade
riddle me this: do you like all flavors of soda or sodaS
I like all flavors of the ice creams that my mom bought.
snow moon
yeah think of it that way, look at billet d'avion, why isn't it les billets des avions? you have plane tickets not planes tickets
iron spade
Billet d'avion = plane ticket
Parfum de glace = ice cream flavour
alright bet, that helps. I also saw people wrote « Le parfum de la glace », is this grammatically correct?
true prawn
It's grammatically correct yes, but has a different meaning
snow moon
its of the ice cream you have now for example
or THE ice cream
le parfum de la glace que je mange, c'est du chocolat
true prawn
Yess, it's specific because of the article la
snow moon
crazy language hey? bienvenue à la langue française :)
iron spade
Thanks y'all, I have not thoroughly learnt about this type of noun. Combined noun...I think so?
forest fossil
- parfums de glace is the entire noun phrase ("ice-cream flavors")
- les parfums des glaces is les parfums + des (de les) glaces (the flavors of the ice-creams*)
*this wouldn't be the typical wording in English, however
Isn't it that?
iron spade
yeah noun phrase
iron spade
- *parfums de glace* is the entire noun phrase ("ice-cream flavors")
- *les parf...
sounds persuasive to me
wind wadi
I like all flavors of the ice creams that my mom bought.
You could say this in French too “J’aime bien tous les parfums des glaces que ma mère a acheté”
humble frost
It tracks fairly well with English, actually.
« tous les parfums de glace »
'all of the flavours of ice-cream'
« tous les parfums des glaces que ma mère a achetés »
'all of the flavours of the ice creams that my Mum bought'
true prawn
I think chatmouth meant thay "ice creams" doesn't sound that standard seeing as it is uncountable
iron spade
Oh, I meant what he wrote in French sounds good to me. But in English, ice-cream could be uncountable or countable, its other meaning is just an ice cream with a scoop of ice cream on the top.
humble frost
I think chatmouth meant thay "ice creams" doesn't sound *that* standard seeing a...
Well uncountable nouns becoming countable becasue of subtypes is a normal thing, and Wiktionary does list a plural form 'ice creams'. Think 'fish', an uncountable noun, becoming countable 'fishes' when taking into account the various subtypes of fish
true prawn
Yes, but then are you saying that when you say ice creams, you are referring to different types of ice cream ?
wind wadi
Well uncountable nouns becoming countable becasue of subtypes is a normal thing,...
but this one is strange too, because for me the plural form of fish is... fish
humble frost
Yes, but then are you saying that when you say ice creams, you are referring to ...
Yeah since there's different subtypes according to flavour
true prawn
What do you mean? Isn't a flavour already a 'subtype of ice cream' ? Or are there more subtypes among each flavour
humble frost
What do you mean? Isn't a flavour already a 'subtype of ice cream' ? Or are ther...
It is, that's the subtype
oh no
brain fart moment, sorry
the subtype here is with the 'my mother bought'
as in it's a subset of ice cream that is bought by my Mum and not ice cream in general
true prawn
Ah alright then
In that case 'flavours' would really be referring to their tastes instead of emphasizing the categorisation (if that makes sense?). Cause how i read iit was either "the different flavours (different subtypes) of the ice creams (sub-subtypes) that my mom bought", or "the different flavours (subtypes) of the different ice creams (portions) that my mom bought"
Why am i overanalysing a phrase about ice cream ? 😭
humble frost
LOL
true prawn
The latter of which would prompt the singular form of ice cream, since we're talking about portions of the uncountable substance
humble frost
It's like 01.24 so I don't know but I feel like flavour here is less important than the types of ice cream bought.