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[hardy dawn]

Please be patient

Our volunteers look into many questions every day; sometimes it takes them a little while to answer.

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Make it descriptive, including relevant context, but also to the point. This way you improve your chances of getting a more relevant and specific answer.

[iron dune]

Hey please don’t ask the same questions in multiple channels because you might waste someone’s time by making them answer something that has already been answered 😅

• “brun foncé”** = “dark brown” ✅
• “coiffés en une coupe soignée” = “styled in a neat cut”. “coupe soignée” is very general, it means a neat or tidy haircut, it doesn’t specifically imply an “undercut.”
• “avec un dessus légèrement plus long et texturé” = “with a slightly longer, textured top”, this part of your sentence was correctly translated imo”
• “brossé vers l'arrière” = “brushed back” this is correct too so nice going

If you really want to specifically describe an undercut I guess you could say “Il a des cheveux courts, brun foncé, coiffés en undercut soigné, avec un dessus légèrement plus long et texturé, brossé vers l'arrière”

[mortal halo]

It’s not wasting time, i want second opinions actually

Please don’t assume hurtfully

[mortal halo]

Thank you!

I’ve had people tell me different things and i find it helpful

[iron dune]

I know but people give second opinions in the same threads usually

[mortal halo]

Not for me.

[mortal halo]

What would this say? At the bottom

Like what changed

[iron dune]

And then they talk about it amongst themselves, if you put your question in two different channels tou risk having people say what’s already been said but if they read it in the same thread they’ll either add to what’s been said or say their own answers

[mortal halo]

they don’t

this server is super helpful but I’ve never had that happen!

[iron dune]

I’ve seen mods ask people not to post the same thing in different channels before

[mortal halo]

In chat that is

[iron dune]

To describe an undercut Id say you should use the English word because it’s the name of the style

[mortal halo]

Ohh

Right

[iron dune]

Your English translation was more specific than your French translation

[mortal halo]

Yeah 😭

Thsnk you

Thank

[mortal halo]

What would this say at the bottom in English

I’m trying to learn the vocab

[iron dune]

“He has short, dark brown hair styled in a neat undercut, with a slightly longer, textured top that is brushed back”

[mortal halo]

Is it exactly that

[iron dune]

Did you use a translator for the French part? I don’t think translators would know specific things like undercut, there’s no French word for it which is why I’m using the English word

[iron dune]

What do you mean exactly? It’s not extremely word for word because if it was then it wouldn’t work because French and English structure sentences differently

[mortal halo]

No but someone helped me when i messed up the grammar

[iron dune]

But if you mean is it an accurate translation that interprets what you want to say as well as it can then yeah

[mortal halo]

Yay okay

[mortal halo]

Yeah like word for word

That makes sense

[iron dune]

If you tell an English speaking hairdresser the English sentence I wrote and then you tell a French hairdresser the French sentence i wrote you’ll finish with the exact same style both times

But if you gave the French person your first French sentence the style will look similar but since you didn’t specify that it’s an undercut there’s a high chance it won’t look the same as the English hairdresser’s style

[mortal halo]

Yess okay

I also wrote this a bit different

Il a les cheveux bruns foncés, courts, avec un toupet plus long et ondulé coiffé vers l’arrière.

||dark brown wavy hair styled backwards with an undercut

Would that work too

[mortal halo]

Ohh Yeah

[calm lichen]

i agree with courtney but for some reason im inclined to prefer il a des cheveux courts d'un brun foncé...

purely stylistic i think, what you have isn't incorrect

[iron dune]

Both are grammatically correct but they have slightly different nuances and are used in slightly different contexts.
Your construction uses "d'un brun foncé" as a more descriptive phrase, focusing on the specific shade of brown. It adds a slightly more formal or literary tone to the sentence. It's like saying "of a dark brown shade," which emphasizes the particular color.
In my structure "brun foncé" acts more like an additional detail or an apposition, adding information about the hair color.
It’s more straightforward and conversational. It's similar to saying "He has short, dark brown hair," where the focus is on the overall description rather than the specific shade, does that make sense?

[calm lichen]

it does indeed ! amazingly put

↑ known "old man", "book" type speaker xD

[mortal halo]

guys what about this

Il a des cheveux courts, brun foncé. Il a une coupe undercut soignée avec un dessus ondulé légèrement plus long que le reste, coiffés vers l'arrière

im getting lost with the word undercut

[calm lichen]

colour also has to agree as another descriptor of cheveux which are plural, bruns foncés

not the point, apologies

[mortal halo]

what would this mean in english exactly

[iron dune]

Why do you need so many different ways of saying the same thing?😅

[mortal halo]

becasue i asked soemone and they told me th eother one had issues

and then they re wrote it

its so scaryyy i dont wanna learn the wrong thing

[calm lichen]

still dark brown, just in plural

[iron dune]

Were they native?

[mortal halo]

yes

[calm lichen]

oh did you mean your whole sentence

[mortal halo]

yess

[iron dune]

What did they tell you to say?

[mortal halo]

guys what does this mean in english

Il a des cheveux courts, brun foncé. Il a une coupe undercut soignée avec un dessus ondulé légèrement plus long que le reste, coiffés vers l'arrière

this

they said that but im confused on the actual translation to english

[iron dune]

You added undercut after I said it

It wasn’t there before

[mortal halo]

they wrote this one

the native speaker told me to say that

but idk what it means exactly in english

could u translate for me im a bit confused

[calm lichen]

my translations tend to be clunky because i struggle to make a text flow in a language different to the original

he has short dark brown hair. he has a well taken care of undercut haircut with a wavy, slightly longer than the rest, top, styled towards the back

[mortal halo]

thank you!

[calm lichen]

o7

[mortal halo]

is this at the bottom good to say though?

thanks guyss

[iron dune]

Are you talking about my answer?

[mortal halo]

yess

i think urs is more like straighfoward

id prefer to say that id understand better

[iron dune]

Mine is just what you wrote in English but in French

[mortal halo]

Yay okay

Thank uu!

[calm lichen]

sorry i got busy, final feedback re the bottom sentence - again, bruns foncés

sole correction

[iron dune]

This is incorrect, it should be brun foncé as I said

"brun foncé" is used as a compound adjective. In French, compound adjectives of color usually do not agree in gender or number with the noun they describe. So even though "cheveux" is plural, "brun foncé" remains invariable

[calm lichen]

A

never mind 🤐 hehe

[iron dune]

If "brun" and "foncé" were separate adjectives (i.e., "cheveux bruns" and "cheveux foncés"), they would agree in number and become "bruns" and "foncés" but in this case "brun foncé" is a fixed expression for a specific color which is why it doesn’t change. French grammar is fun 😅

[calm lichen]

yeah that's what i was thinking of, ive never really had reason to use this expression so i assumed it was the same behaviour x)