#oysa
brazen scroll
flat ravine
they aren't. "y" takes the place of the place you are going to : "il faut combien de temps pour arriver à Genèves ?" and "il faut combien de temps pour y arriver ?" are the same
narrow jungle
The latter doesn't mention a place, it only focuses on the act of arriving.
flat ravine
however when you say "il faut combien de temps pour arriver" you miss the location
pseudo fjord
Only the first is right because arriver needs a complement/object, and there’s none in the second.
Pour arriver à quel endroit ou à faire quoi ?
narrow jungle
Only the first is right because arriver needs a complement/object, and there’s n...
Tu es sur le chemin de l'école ? Il faut combien de temps pour arriver ?'
I wouldn't consider this impossible/incorrect. 🤔
pearl patrol
Only the first is right because arriver needs a complement/object, and there’s n...
They’re both grammatically correct
pseudo fjord
Oh you’re both right, I was thinking of « aller » needing a complement
pearl patrol
@fluid ivy Both are grammatically correct but they are used in slightly different contexts
« Il faut combien de temps pour y arriver? » means "How long does it take to get there?"
The word "y" refers to a specific place that has already been mentioned or is understood from the context.
« Il faut combien de temps pour arriver ? » means "How long does it take to arrive?"
It is more general and does not specify a destination
The short answer is, the first sentence is used when the destination is known or has been mentioned, while the second is more general and can be used without a specified destination
fluid ivy
ahhhh
narrow jungle
The short answer is, the first sentence is used when the destination is known or...
I'd also add that the first focuses on the destination while the latter focuses on arriving.
fluid ivy
thankssss
pearl patrol
I'd also add that the first focuses on the destination while the latter focuses ...
I know but you already said that at the beginning so I didn’t feel the need to repeat it :p
fluid ivy
i just appreciate how random ppl on the internet like are willing to type out paragraphs to explain shit
like what
couldnt be me
narrow jungle
I know but you already said that at the beginning so I didn’t feel the need to r...
I understood. Just wanted to include it in the summary now that all the confusion has been cleared up. :D
pearl patrol
i just appreciate how random ppl on the internet like are willing to type out pa...
It helps me learn and refresh my memory on stuff too so I like doing it, it keeps me sharp x)
fluid ivy
wait fr
pearl patrol
Yeah I use your questions as tests. When I saw this question for example my first thought was “I should know this one, I’ve learned it before”