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twin wing
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Depends. It really depends

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What are you going to do in the 4-5 hours, and what concepts are you going to grasp and when? And how long would it take for you to understand a certain concept

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If you are a relatively fast learner, 6 months with 4-5 hours a day is a lot and you'd get far if you were to be focused

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but don't overwork yourself as well... and pressure yourself because of this

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language learning is about passion, and not brute forcing it (that's why if you're learning for school, it is not a great place to start)

hazy smelt
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  • 50 reps of glossika reviewing old cards and 50 of new cards (30 minutes)
  • 1 hour long class each day (or every other day if i'm busy) (1 hour)
  • hammering weak grammar concepts with chatgpt pratice until i understand better (30-ish minutes)
  • doing a few lessons a day on babbel app (20-ish minutes)
  • watching easy french videos when eating dinner usually
  • listening to french music 90% of the time
  • 2 pimsleur lessons to practice listening & speaking (30 minutes x 2)

Probably closer to 3-4 hours of active studying / participating tbf, but that's been my routine the past few months and i feel like i've been learning very quick. I studied german in school so i think that helped my initial speed quite a bit too.

twin wing
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as long as what you are doing does not burden you. fine. but with this, knowing your background more. in 6 months youd accomplish a lot. espescailly if you have class.

is the class 1:1 with a tutor?

hazy smelt
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small group usually 3 ish

twin wing
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everyday?

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i would reccomend 1:1 for less meetups

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price variation

hazy smelt
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it's babble live, i'm doing this instead of italki since you pay a flat monthly rate and get unlimited classes, so i can do it every day

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and it's flexible w schedule etc.

twin wing
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you'd get more out of 1:1, but to balance costs, youd see like twice-ish a week

hazy smelt
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hmm you think 1:1 is more beneficial?

hazy smelt
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like i get more out of the time spent doing?

twin wing
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yes

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for example one day you go

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"damn what a nice day to learn about how to be a waitor in french as im going to work and i meet a lotta tourists"

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they can do that

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and that by tailoring to what you want, and knowing your interests they can tailor needs to you

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what you need, rather than for example waht this other guy needs cuz he doesnt understand a concept you already know

hazy smelt
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ah i see i see that does sound pretty good, i might try that out. what do you recommend, italki?

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a lot of times during them i zone out for that reason lol

twin wing
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i was stuck in a 2:1 class, one with a 5 year old, another with a 9 year old (as per tutoring centers arrangement) it was dreadful. i swapped classeses from the 5yo to the 9yo class, one day the teacher with the 9yo was sick and i got swapped back for a lesson with the 5yo and they were on the same fricken unit i was in when i left.

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i begged and begged for 1;1 and got what i wanted

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come august 20th would be my 4 year anniversary of commencing french, and im solid B2 (no delf)

twin wing
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and theyre v good at tailoring to neds

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else you can find on platforms like italki

hazy smelt
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like with native speakers etc

twin wing
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not 100% no issues

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but 90%

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you are able to converse on most things

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but if its something niche or youve never touched base on then youre screwed

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youd mess up small amounts

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but messing up to the extent someone would understand you from an error perspectivve

mighty prism
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probably not even 90%

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I'm at a certified b2 and i'd say for me it's somewhere between 70 and 80

twin wing
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it depends what youve been taught at what pathway

honest void
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ive never used chatgtp but ive seen screenshots of it posted twice with questions and both times it's been saying nonsense

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i would not use it, let alone for a substantial 30mins daily, for grammar learning

hazy smelt
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I’ve been using Claude instead and it’s pretty good tbh, like I’m pretty sure it’s accurate

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I’ve been using it for le gerondif, le conditionell and l’imparfait