Kakes (correct me pls)

[inner fog]

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[pure vector]

It is yes, the construction is a reflexive causative, « se faire payer ».

||We make ourselves pay generously for our confessions / We are made to pay generously for our confessions||

[rose siren]

Ah, that's a french structure. I read the site you sent, so I understood if I wanna use it, it is always: (object pronoun) + faire + (verb) + (predicative if it needs one), right?

[pure vector]

Yup, works

You might want to make sure you read the previous page correctly, the general causative, and the next one about object agreements

Just to get a more informed view

[rose siren]

Hello, I needed to sleep. If I understood it correctly, are the following phrases I wrote correct?

• Je me fais dessiner une fleur.
• Il a fait connaître la Chole par le Thomas.
• Mon père fais chanter ma mère.
• Tu fais réparer l'ordinateur.

[pure vector]

Il a fait connaître la Chole par le Thomas.
I don't know what you mean by this.

Mon père fais chanter ma mère.
Okay, so other than it should be « fait » since this is the third-person, nothing about this is technically incorrect. However, « faire chanter qqn » has the meaning of 'to blackmail someone' so this sentence will be understood as, 'My father is blackmailing my mother'. I personally would reword this into something like: « Mon père encourage ma mère à chanter (My father is encouraging my mother to sing) ».

Otherwise, all good.
« Je me fais dessiner une fleur (I am made to draw a flower) »
« Tu fais réparer l'ordinateur (You had the computer repaired) »

[rose siren]

I read about that here (agent and receiver causative). And I didn't know faire chanter qqn would mean to blackmail someone 😅 I thought it would be "My father makes my mother sing", thank you very much

[pure vector]

Right, the structure makes sense but the meaning is off. I don’t know what « Chole » is but « Thomas » is a name and names don’t carry articles unless they’re a brand.

[rose siren]

Chole is other name, a girl

[pure vector]

Yeah names don’t carry articles

« Il a fait connaitre Chole à/par Thomas (he made Thomas know Chole) » works

[rose siren]

I got it

So:

• Je me fais dessiner une fleur.
• Il a fait connaître Chole à/par Thomas
• Mon père encourage ma mère à chanter.
• Tu fais réparer l'ordinateur.

Correct?

[pure vector]

Looks good to me