#bre (corrigez-moi)

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hardy starBOT
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tawny plover
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The place you're going to - you can't have "aller" without a direction (to/from somewhere)

jovial mauve
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tu dois y aller même si tu ne le veux pas.
you have to go there even if you don't want to.

ashen sentinel
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so it is like the equivalent of "en" but with places?

tawny plover
ashen sentinel
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so they have similar purpose

tawny plover
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In the case of locations, "y" can be used even if "à" isn't used, if you're referring to going to the place (e.g. "aller en France" uses the preposition "en", but you'd still say "y aller" as it's a location you're going to)

jovial mauve
tawny plover
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But you can also use the pronoun "en" (which replaces "de") for locations
E.g.
Je viens de France => J'en viens

jovial mauve
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je viens de France, est-ce que ta famille en vient aussi?

ashen sentinel
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"en" and "y" can both be used for locations, but "en" for objects?

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when do you know to use en vs y for location?

jovial mauve
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if its de, use en
if its à or en, use y

ashen sentinel
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oh okay

tawny plover
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Locations/objects/other things, doesn't matter
Just not people (not usually anyways)

jovial mauve
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je viens de France
ta famille en vient aussi?

tu vas aller au supermarché?
oui, j'y vais

tu vas en France?
non, je n'y vais pas

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as-tu de la bière?
oui, j'en ai

ashen sentinel
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oh so like
je viens à Paris -> j'y viens?

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it always goes before the verb?

jovial mauve
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yes it always before the verb. its classes as a pronoun, so it goes in the same place as a pronoun would.

the verb venir uses the proposition de, not à, but yes for the verbs that use à, your sentence would be correct

ashen sentinel
jovial mauve
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je viens de comprendre ta phrase

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ne t'inquiete pas, t'as raison

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there is a chart somewhere that shows you the order of pronouns in french

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let me see if i can find it

ashen sentinel
jovial mauve
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so subject is
je, tu, il/elle/on, nous, vous, ils/elles

then pronouns, in the order shown

then verb

ashen sentinel
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okay that makes sense

jovial mauve
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its why we say il y en a, and not il en y a

ashen sentinel
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i am oblivious 🤦‍♀️

jovial mauve
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il y en met
he's putting some there

advanced sentence but just to show you the order 🙂

ashen sentinel
# jovial mauve

oh so the columns are in the order you'd put the pronoun in if you have more than one

jovial mauve
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yes exactly

ashen sentinel
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okay this is all making sense now

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merci beaucoup, j'apprécie toi :)))

jovial mauve
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je l'apprécie
is better 🙂

de rien, ça fait plaisir!

ashen sentinel
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why l'?

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🗿

jovial mauve
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parce que je t'apprécie means I appreciate you (as in i dont love you, i just appreciate you)

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its meaning is different in french than english

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so more naturally we say

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je l'apprécie

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its just a set phrase

ashen sentinel
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ohhh okay

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je vois

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dans ce cas

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je l'apprécie :))