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[fathom bolt]

It's both

[umbral wolf]

how would it be used as a verb?

[fathom bolt]

« On va déjeuner chez moi (We're going to have lunch at my place) »

[umbral wolf]

so does it have to be used in conjuction with another verb?

[fathom bolt]

no

I just wanted to preserve the infinitive

you can say « On déjeunera chez moi »

or « Hier j'ai déjeuné chez Gabrielle »

[umbral wolf]

ah okay

merci, je l'apprécie :)))

[fathom bolt]

oh a bit of a detail

déjeuner means lunch in France but breakfast in Canada, Belgium, and I think Switzerland too

[umbral wolf]

how do they say lunch then?

très intéressant

[royal geode]

most of the time I hear it in France it's for breakfast

[umbral wolf]

what 😭 so then what is common for lunch

[fathom bolt]

France: petit-déjeuner / déjeuner / dîner
Everywhere else: déjeuner / dîner / souper

(breakfast/lunch/dinner in that order)

[umbral wolf]

how odd

[royal geode]

technically yes but "petit" is a hassle to say so most people just use "déjeuner" for breakfast in France as well (or p'tit dej)

[umbral wolf]

ohh okay

that makes sense

[royal geode]

and lunch can be "déjeuner", but it can be confusing. Most of the time it's just something generic like "repas de midi"

[umbral wolf]

and repas de midi is more common than déjeuner?

[royal geode]

not necessarily this sequence of words, just anything generic
most of the time you would use a verb and not a noun

it's way more common to use verbs to refer to meals compared to English

[fathom bolt]

IIRC it came form royalty. The original configuation starts with déjeuner (literally de-jeûner where jeûner was 'fast' as in fasting) but the nobility used to wake up so late in the morning that their breakfast was lunch so it carried over. When they did wake up early, they only had a snack or a 'small' lunch, hence petit-déjeuner

[royal geode]

"what did you get for lunch?" => "qu'est-ce que t'as mangé ce midi ?"
"wanna have lunch with me?" => "tu veux qu'on mange ensemble ?"
(using verbs instead of nouns)

[umbral wolf]

that makes sense, i shall remember this

[umbral wolf]

that is pretty interesting. this is somehwat related, but only recently did i realize that breakfast was like breaking a fast 😭

and its cause i watched an old timey show when they said you want to break our fasts together

de tout façon, merci beacoup :)) j'apprécie l'aide

[vague escarp]

just say "manger"

[umbral wolf]

je le sais maintenant 🙄