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radiant bay
In this case, y replaces a complement introduced by à. Since we joue à un jeu, if we want to replace à un jeu with a pronoun, we use y
Here's some more info on this pronoun https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/y-adverbial-pronoun/
radiant bay
It can mean i'm going/I'm going there. And that's actually more what's happening here. The pronoun goes before the noun it belongs to, I made a mistake
So the sense of this phrase is more "i'm going there to play"
uncut pond
okk
another question
isnt this wrong? from the link u sent
il y vas le mardi
doesnt this mean "he's going there tuesday"?
radiant bay
nope. il y va le mardi -> he goes there on tuesdays
le mardi = tuesdays
mardi = a nearby tuesday
uncut pond
so "j'y vais le mardi" means "i go there on tuesdays"?
radiant bay
exactly
radiant bay
"i go each tuesday", but this sentence is incomplete in french. where are you going?
aller needs a complement
uncut pond
au entrainment for example
radiant bay
yeah, so you have to specify that somehow, whether you explicitly say the location, or use y
radiant bay
i believe so!
uncut pond
but "j'y vais au entraînement le mardi" is better?
radiant bay
i don't know about better, but it's just a bit different. they mean basically the same thing
small thing, au becomes à l' before a vowel or mute h
uncut pond
the "y" kinda gets me confused
radiant bay
oh, and you would want to avoid j'y vais à l'entraînement, it's redundant
radiant bay
the "y" kinda gets me confused
it can take a bit to get used to, i won't lie
uncut pond
oh, and you would want to avoid j'y vais à l'entraînement, it's redundant
why's that?
radiant bay
y replaces à l'entraînement
radiant bay
yeah
uncut pond
yea but how they know where im going? 😭
radiant bay
context lol
usually you wouldn't say that (j'y vais) out of the blue unless you're leaving
uncut pond
so "y" basically means "there"?
radiant bay
in this context, yeah, that's a great way to think of it
uncut pond
in this context, yeah, that's a great way to think of it
theres other meanings to it?
uncut pond
usually you wouldn't say that (j'y vais) out of the blue unless you're leaving
"j'y vais" u only say this when you are already leaving?
radiant bay
yeah 
first of all the concepts of here and there are a lot more fuzzy than in English.
and then it can also replace objects rather than just places -> j'y pense = i'm thinking about it
radiant bay
"j'y vais" u only say this when you are already leaving?
it can be, but not exclusively
- tu vas à l'école?
- oui, j'y vais
for example
uncut pond
nah bro french so complicated
radiant bay
the more time you spend with it, the more it makes sense
this is just a concept that doesn't map cleanly to english
uncut pond
yeah <:pleurehalal:832980905777692682>
first of all the concepts of here and th...
so y also means it?
radiant bay
it's easier than you think, don't worry
opaque glen
well it is just that "y" replaces à and "en" replaces de nothing much
just pay attention to their placement in the sentence cause that is the kinda complicated part.
radiant bay
it's for sure confusing up front, but you'll get it
radiant bay
hello
uncut pond
Il doit y avoir, il peut y avoir, il va y avoir
can u explain what makes the difference with and without the "y"?
radiant bay
those are variants of "il y a" which translates to "there is..."
uncut pond
cuz i find the same
radiant bay
il doit y avoir -> there must be...
il peut y avoir -> there can/could be...
il va y avoir -> there's going to be...
radiant bay
it/he must have
il doit avoir une pomme -> he must have an apple
il doit y avoir une pomme -> there must be an apple there
novel tinsel
"il y a" is idiomatic. Removing the "y" completely changes the meaning
uncut pond
ok but how does only y change the whole phrase 😭
like how does it change he/it to them?
novel tinsel
ok but how does only y change the whole phrase 😭
because now it's a set construction with a specific meaning.
"il" is not a personal subject anymore, but rather part of an impersonal expression, not referring to anyone or anything specific
"avoir" doesn't mean "to have" anymore, it's just part of an expression signifying something/someone is there
Because of that, recognizing instances and variations of "il y a" is important. It's just an idiom.
uncut pond
alr
cloud latch
like how does it change he/it to them?
"y" is like "there". The languages obviously don't line up 1:1 but it's like
"It has there"(fr) => "There is"(en)
Which is very different from just
"It/he has"
Also, seems it got missed? But:
J'y vais jouer => I'm going there to play
Je vais y jouer => I*'m going to* play it (some kind of game)
Citrons gave the explanation for the second sentence but your original sentence was the first
cloud latch
Ahh ok