miketuan

[floral ore]

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[forest dome]

usually, when the adjective follows the noun, it has an objective or literal meaning
whereas when the adjective precedes the noun, it has a figurative or subjective meaning

although, this might not seem very obvious sometimes

[cunning quiver]

I'm not sure this will help very much but there are actually adjectives that can have two meanings depending on usage in English too

compare to like

• ma propre chambre (my own room)
• une chambre propre (a clean room)

the word "proper" is used like that in English too

• "this is my proper room" (my own room)
• "my room is proper" (my room is clean)

[forest dome]

here's a nice webpage that has a lot of these movable adjectives:

• https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/movable-adjectives/

[restive pelican]

Thanks bluds

[eager gull]

if you're more into diagrams

[cunning quiver]

I was just typing about the mnemonic i learned once, BANGS. lol

[eager gull]

tho i don't know where "ma propre chambre" would fit in BRAGS lol

[forest dome]

aren't these adjectives placed only before the noun?

[eager gull]

oh i think i misunderstood

[azure whale]

Also it can be a bit misleading for "grand" - "un grand homme" vs "un homme grand"

[pale copper]

Learning french is probably a good way to memorise it

[brazen notch]

Beauté probablement

[azure whale]

what?

how 😭

[brazen notch]

propre means clean, tidy, so it comes under beauty no?

i have no idea haha

[azure whale]

that's only when it comes after

not before

ma propre chambre = my own room

ma chambre propre = my clean room