#goatedpenguin
thorny vale
untold trellis
For both, the real key here is just repetition. If you're told to memorise these words for whatever reason and just that, just repeat the words until they stick. But really if you're memorising for the goal of understanding, the best way is to use them and use them in context. So, for example, I might be given a verb like « sortir » and I'm told to memorise its usage. Okay, so I make sentences or at least take some sentences online from sites like Linguee or Reverso Context: « J'ai sorti la poubelle plus tôt, elle se situe en dehors de la maison maintenant; Marc partira dans une heure à une boîte de nuit avec ses potes; une fois qu'elle était partie, elle a décidé de rentrer chez elle; etcetera. »
sonic aurora
The goal is to be able to use it practically, I figured that doing brute force tactics like writing and speaking going to be the best
sacred belfry
the guy who responded gave a pretty perfect answer haha. I have the worst memory possible, and for vocab words I usually just hand write them repeatedly, as much as possible, until it just gets engraved into my brain haha
sonic aurora
lol
untold trellis
The goal is to be able to use it practically, I figured that doing brute force t...
Well yes but you're not going to understand what it means unless you use it in context. You can repeat « sortir » all you want until it sticks in your mind but you're going to have a hard time conjugating and using it in a sentence. For example « sortir » is a verb that can either take the auxiliary verb « être » or « avoir » depending on the intended meaning and the presence of a direct object, and that's a distinction you may not realise and/or understand unless you use it in context.
sonic aurora
ic
well
ig I have to just be making a conscious effort to actually use the word
"C'est la vie"
I am in french 1 rn
I am cooked for french 2
sacred belfry
i mean i usually suck at memorizing conjugation. I usually look at my answer and if it sounds right then its correct, heh. But ig my teachers really tried to teach me the exceptions, so i would say.. if you're trying to master conjugation you gotta look out for the exceptions (there are soo many)
sonic aurora
honestly "putin" conjugations
My techer be like: "Serge OMG you got the gender and conjugation wrong tu échoues"
anyways
I gotta do my la manison project
I have to add 3 rooms to the house
gotta google transalate that
nvm
....
sacred belfry
that went offtopic fastt
sonic aurora
ye
I wanna be like that xioma guy who acts dumb and just start speaking full blown languge x
Salut!
sacred belfry
salut
sacred belfry
as-tu mange trops de sucre-
sacred belfry
i wish i could make a house in french class. it sounds so fun
sacred belfry
waitt is it not
sonic aurora
i wish i could make a house in french class. it sounds so fun
buddy its out of paper
sacred belfry
oh yeah but without the tiret
sonic aurora
nous sommes des imbéciles
sonic aurora
oh yeah but without the tiret
tiret?
sacred belfry
nous sommes des imbéciles
ouii
sacred belfry
trait d'union
🤦always confuse me
sonic aurora
trait d'union
My french is potato lvl comment dit on trait d'union?
sacred belfry
like how to pronounce?? lmao
sacred belfry
oh just the line in between two words
i think its called trait dùnion
oops
trait d'union.
sonic aurora
oh ic
untold trellis
i mean i usually suck at memorizing conjugation. I usually look at my answer and...
Not really…
Most exceptions in conjugation lie in the present tense and it's not that bad.
sacred belfry
oh ok dont trust me i suck at french
sacred belfry
Most exceptions in conjugation lie in the present tense and it's not that bad.
im doing passe simple atm haha and the amount of weird endings trips me up bad. Because even if you say it out loud it sounds weird even if it's right
untold trellis
I mean I'm not trivialising here, when you're learning sure it's a pain in the arse but it's not that bad
Your brain definitely adjusts and starts to look out for patterns. At some point, your subconscious will have understood the patterns and you can start conjugating on the fly.
untold trellis
im doing passe simple atm haha and the amount of weird endings trips me up bad. ...
For good reason, it's not used in 90-95% of contexts
sacred belfry
Your brain definitely adjusts and starts to look out for patterns. At some point...
true true. except we do the same tenses each year and i forget it immediately after a test. i can't conjugate futur simple even though i've done it since elementary school
untold trellis
true true. except we do the same tenses each year and i forget it immediately af...
To be fair, sometimes you need explicit call-outs and reasonings to make it click
what made the simple future and present conditional click for me was, 'avoir in the present and imperfect'
sacred belfry
i have been trying to make sense of that for like five minutes. i dont get it bless my stupid heart 😭 could you explain?
untold trellis
wait
Pour la majorité de verbes, le futur simple est simplement l'infinitif comme thème plus les conjugaisons du verbe avoir au présent comme terminaison.
exemple: parler
parler + ai = je parlerai
parler + as = tu parleras
parler + a = il/elle/on parlera
parler + (av)ons = nous parlerons
parler + (av)ez = vous parlerez
parler + ont = ils/elles parleront
Pour les verbes qui se terminent en -re, on supprime la lettre E avant d'ajouter les terminaisons
Exemple: rendre -e => rendr-
rendr + ai = je rendrai
rendr + as = tu rendras
rendr + a = il/elle/on rendra
rendr + (av)ons = nous rendrons
rendr + (av)ez = vous rendrez
rendr + ont = ils/elles rendront
Ça s'applique aussi au conditionnel présent où on utiliserait plutôt les conjugaisons du verbe avoir à l'imparfait comme terminaison.
parler
parler + (av)ais = je parlerais
parler + (av)ais = tu parlerais
parler + (av)ait = il/elle/on parlerait
parler + (av)ions = nous parlerions
parler + (av)iez = vous parleriez
parler + (av)aient = ils/elles parleraient
rendre -e => rendr-
rendr + (av)ais = je rendrais
rendr + (av)ais = tu rendrais
rendr + (av)ait = il/elle/on rendrait
rendr + (av)ions = nous rendrions
rendr + (av)iez = vous rendriez
rendr + (av)aient = ils/elles rendraient
sacred belfry
why the heck did no one tell me this before?
untold trellis
The stem is regular except for like 20 verbs: « acquérir (acquerr-), aller (ir-), avoir (aur-), courir (courr-), devoir (devr-), envoyer (enverr-), être (ser-), faire (fer-), falloir (faudr-), pleuvoir (pleuvr-), pouvoir (pourr-), savoir (saur-), valoir (vaudr-), venir (viendr-), voir (verr-), vouloir (voudr-) »