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before telling you your mistakes, you should know about pronoun order when you have two pronouns in your sentences, since many of your mistakes are related to that:

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exercise 2
[1] incorrect pronoun order, and the past participle « apporté » does not correctly agree with the direct object
[2] incorrect pronoun order, and make sure to use the correct verb and agree it to the direct object
[3] see n°2
[4] incorrect pronoun order, and the past participle « confirmé » does not agree with the direct object
[5] missing pronoun; you forgot to replace « au théâtre » in the question
[6] missing pronoun; you forgot to replace « un message »
[7] missing pronoun; you forgot to replace « un bonbon »

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exercise 3
[3] incorrect pronoun placement (object pronouns always follow the negative adverb « ne »)
[4] see n°3
[5] see n°3
[6] see n°3
[7] incorrect pronoun used; the verb in the question is « vous », not « tu »
[8] see n°3
[9] see n°7

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exercice 4
[2] the past participle does not agree with the direct object
[3] missing pronoun; you forgot to replace « de Daniel » in the question
[4] incorrect pronoun order, and incorrect pronoun used to replace « un message »
[5] incorrect elision of « me » in the question
[7] inversed pronouns « me » and « te » between question and response, and missing pronoun; you forgot to replace « la réponse »
[8] missing pronoun; you forgot to replace « l'adresse »
[9] incorrect placement of the negative adverb « pas » (in compound tenses, « pas » always follows the auxiliary)

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that's everything

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you royally messed up

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jkjkjk

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if you have any further questions, feel free

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by the way, what book is that? my friend has been asking me about grammar books for learning french

real slate
feral oxide
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And big thanks for detailed answer
Time to get to work now 🗿

feral oxide
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feral oxide
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so diagram would be like that?

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uhh...

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no

feral oxide
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mdr

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listen

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the "conjugated verb" means the être/avoir auxiliary and the past participle together

feral oxide
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i am sorry this topic makes my iq decrease

coarse karma
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it's fine

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no matter the tense

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for example...

  • Est-ce que tu __m'__as apporté des bonbons ?
  • Oui, je t'en ai apporté.
    as you can see, both « te » and « en » are written before the entire verb
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do you get it? 👀

feral oxide
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ummm i think so
but it's gonna come out in practice

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i did a bit of correcting

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for exercise 2, n°5 is wrong, remember pronoun order

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you wrote « y » in the wrong place

feral oxide
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a a
je t'y ?

coarse karma
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and n°7 is almost correct

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since « un » in « un bonbon » is a number, you need to keep it at the end of the verb

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so... « Je t'en ai déjà donné un. »

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do you get it? 👀

feral oxide
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a yes i forgot about this
prof in fact mentioned it b4

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for exercise 3, you forgot « pas » in n°5

feral oxide
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ne nous a pas?

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and you wrote « pas » in the wrong place in n°8

feral oxide
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and is there supposed to be -es at the end tho? parles?

coarse karma
feral oxide
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elle vous a parle

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no

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if the object pronoun is direct, then we agree the past participle
however, in this case, it's indirect (since we say parler à (quelqu'un); there's a preposition), so we don't agree the past participle

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also, i missed something
for n°4, you forgot to replace « son voyage »

feral oxide
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but there's no à tho 🫠

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mmm... how do i explain this in a not confusing way... 🤔

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think of it like this:

  • Il a parlé à sa mère. → Il lui a parlé.
    even though « sa mère » is feminine, we don't agree the past participle
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since here, it's an indirect object, not a direct one

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you do know the difference between direct and indirect objects, right?

feral oxide
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well, i know the difference betwen them but difficulty?

coarse karma
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oh sorry, i meant difference

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not difficulty

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autocorrect

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lol

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okay, so yeah

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you get it, right?

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😅

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which pronoun do you think we should use?

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to replace it?

feral oxide
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le
because it's raconter qqch?

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yesss

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now how would you place it in the response?

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remember pronoun order

feral oxide
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il ne me l'a pas raconte?

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YESSSSSSSS

feral oxide
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YESSSS

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lastly, you forgot to replace « un message » in n°10 💀

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very crucial

feral oxide
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yes ofc but i'm on pc now so i dont have them:C

coarse karma
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ohhh okay

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that's fine

feral oxide
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lol

feral oxide
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but
less mistakes than before
there's progress

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yes

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far less mistakes 💀

feral oxide
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💀

coarse karma
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that's something

feral oxide
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are you a teacher or smth man 🧍‍♂️

coarse karma
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no

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i just happen to know a lot about the French language

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and know how to explain properly

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so yeah

feral oxide
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yeah you sure do
that's some good teaching you got

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thanks for the patience 😭

coarse karma
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so, what's the answer for n°10?

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because we still have exercise 4 💀

feral oxide
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yyyy
je peux te le laisser?

coarse karma
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not quite

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remember, you're replacing « un message »

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not « le message »

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there's a difference

feral oxide
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aaaa
je peux te laisser un?

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almost 😅

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je peux t'en laisser un vote_oui

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remember that when we have a noun that's accompied by the indefinite article « un/une », we replace the noun with « en », and we keep « un/une » right after the verb since they're considered to be numbers

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par exemple...

  • J'ai regardé un film hier. → J'en ai regardé un hier.
  • J'ai acheté une chemise hier. → J'en ai acheté une hier.
feral oxide
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I've been fooled

coarse karma
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you'll get the hang of it

feral oxide
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I hope it'll be sooner than later

coarse karma
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for the benefit of the coming people who might teach you in the future 💀

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kidding

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anyways, onto exercise 4

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there's a small something in n°2

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look at the past participle in the question

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and then look at the past participle you wrote in the response

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you see it?

feral oxide
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Did I forget an "e"

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it should be « invitée »

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for n°3, did you mean to write « ne m'as pas lui parlé » ?

feral oxide
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Yes

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that's wrong

feral oxide
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imma' just tell you why since it's a bit advanced

feral oxide
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Just like my sclerosis

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okay, dark humor aside

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when we use an indirect object pronoun, it's always because the verb uses the preposition « à » or « pour »
for example...

  • Elle a téléphoné à Marc. → Elle lui a téléphoné.
  • J'ai acheté le jeu pour les enfants. → Je leur ai acheté le jeu.
    here, it's a bit different; we have the preposition « de »
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you might be tempted to say that "oh, here we'll just use « en » because it replaces nouns that have the preposition « de »)

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BUT NO-

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that only applies if the indirect object is an inanimate object or abstract concept
like, for example...

  • Marc est sorti de la piscine. → Marc en est sorti.
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in the sentence in n°3, we have a person after « de »

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in this case, we'll use a stressed pronoun

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which are... moi, toi, lui, elle, nous, vous, eux, and elles

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since « Daniel » is masculine singular, we need to use « lui »

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and so the correct answer is...
« Non, tu m'as pas parlé de lui. »

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yes, a bit confusing i know

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it's not that important that you get it right now, but you should at least know the reason behind it

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anyways, shall we move on?

feral oxide
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One thing

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How did you do those big letters?

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you just do
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feral oxide
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And the stressed pronouns are always after conjugated verb?

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yes

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rather, they're always after the preposition

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since the preposition never disappears when you use a stressed pronoun

feral oxide
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lol

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you forgot to replace « un message » correctly in n°4

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for the third time 💀

feral oxide
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Preposition is which thing exactly? Sorry my english vocab for grammar terms is limited

feral oxide
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feral oxide
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Je m'en ai laissé un?

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the pronoun used is « elle », not « je »

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so it would be « Elle m'en a laissé un. »

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but in terms of object pronouns, you did good 👍

feral oxide
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Ah yes got bit lost there

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anyways, just one more thing

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in n°9, using « là » is acceptable i guess, but i'm pretty sure you're supposed to replace « dans la rue » with « y »

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so... what would that look like?

feral oxide
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I've used là on purpose so I don't have to scuffle with this 💀

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Je ne t'y ai pas vue..?

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Or je ne t'ai pas y vue?

coarse karma
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that's correct

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and that concludes our session

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bye 👋

feral oxide
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Yupi I'm free
Bye! Thanks for help!

coarse karma
feral oxide
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@coarse karma btw i managed to find the pdf for the textbook so i can send it to you if you want! it's called grammaire en dialogue by claire miquel

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send it here

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because you can send large files in this server

feral oxide
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now i see that there are answers at the end too

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merci beaucoup 🙏