#imsohappyrnfr

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lean abyss
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What do you mean by "about" irregulars?

white topaz
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If you mean irregular conjugations then just learn them, they are a lot but through use you will get the hang of them.

slim olive
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so for irregulars are there different/ seperate irregulars for present, past participle, future, and imperfect?

lean abyss
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As in, are certain verbs regular in the present but irregular in the imperfect etc. etc. ?

slim olive
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yess

normal tide
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Irregulars happen in just about any language – at least European ones – so I don't know what you mean by this.

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There's no reason why the singular third person conjugation for 'to have' is 'has'; why 'he has' and not 'he haves'? Why 'he has spoken' and not 'he has speaked'?

lean abyss
lean abyss
normal tide
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ah okay

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I would say that irregulars mostly exist in the present indicative tense, the imperfect follows the pattern if you know it; the only one that doesn't is « être » but that verb is just irregular as hell anyway.

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The future also follows a pattern with minor irregularity

lean abyss
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In terms of verbs that aren't irregular in the present but then irregular in other verb tenses, I can't think of any of the top of my head, but I am sure there's got to be at least one.

normal tide
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for example, the pattern for the imperfect is that you take the second person plural conjugation of a verb (nous parlons), eliminate the ending -ons (parl-), and that's your imperfect stem: you just add the endings which are regular
je parlais, tu parlais, il parlait, nous parlions, vous parliez, ils parlaient

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verbs that end with -ir tend to have a stem change in the plural conjugations and so the imperfect follows that

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je __fin__is, tu __fin__is, il __fin__it, nous finissons, vous finissez, ils finissent
je finissais, tu finissais, il finissait, nous finissions, vous finissiez, ils finissaient
(imperfect rule again: nous finissons -> finiss-)

lean abyss
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I'm just appealing to the infinite nature of language with "there's surely got to be some silly verb" but for all intents and purposes, yeah, there aren't any that are regular then irregular.

normal tide
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the only verb that doesn't follow this pattern is être since the nous form is « nous sommes » but the imperfect is not « je sommais* » and instead it's « j'étais »

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for the past participle, -ir gets the R removed and this works for both « partir » and « finir »

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the future/conditional present is the infinitive plus the conjugations of avoir (present for future, imperfect for conditional present) and that's regular too

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Only about 20 verbs are irregular in their stems, « acquérir (acquerr-), aller (ir-), avoir (aur-), courir (courr-), devoir (devr-), envoyer (enverr-), être (ser-), faire (fer-), falloir (faudr-), pleuvoir (pleuvr-), pouvoir (pourr-), savoir (saur-), valoir (vaudr-), venir (viendr-), voir (verr-), vouloir (voudr-) »