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[hoary lantern]

hi @mighty spade starting is one of the harder things to do when learning a language espesially with so many options. it really depends on how you like learning and what works for every person

for example, i find learning through stories fun and eays

[mighty spade]

Yeah ive been looking through different methods and theories. Grammar study in my experience just doesnt work for me and i really dont understand it no matter how its explained, so ive been looking into more input heavy methods. Based on like, krashen

But its left me a little lost on where to start and the process to do

[hoary lantern]

look, i can try and explain to you grammar in easy ways if need be :)

[hoary lantern]

where are you from?

[mighty spade]

Australia

[hoary lantern]

nice

if you speak any other languages

maybe that can help learning French too

as relating something ESP. grammar to a lagnauge you know would make sm sense

[mighty spade]

I do not. Just english. Little bit of basic japanese but not much

[hoary lantern]

but also, there are some rules in french where you just gotta rememeber as they are unique to French

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/subjects/zc7xpv4

1st Level French is the start

[mighty spade]

Ill take a look

[hoary lantern]

videos can help too

EasyFrench is a good resource for beginners

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0mOUg3zK_A&list=PLnazreCxpqRl3L7L2kOo9BsCU8FOYFKch

[mighty spade]

Yeah, the idea was watching and listening to a lot of stuff. Look up words here and there and let the brain goblins figure out the grammar side for me like it did with english

[hoary lantern]

yeah, if you ever find yourself stuck and unable to find answers (or digestable answers) you can always ask #salle-de-classe

[mighty spade]

I was gonna do reading but i cant really discern how a word sounds that way so subtitled videos seems the way to go. Fremch subtitles i should clarify

[hoary lantern]

EasyFrench is good for the way they transcribe

solely on the basis, they will not paraphrase to make it easier to read

they type as they sepak

so you can follow

[mighty spade]

Yeye. Im not expecting to understand muvh for a while but that should fix itself over time. Though ill probably be unable to avoid looking at that conjugation table eventually

[hoary lantern]

its pretty okayy

[mighty spade]

Are there any tv shows to recommend. They dont necessarily have to be easy. Can get something from it regardless i think

[hoary lantern]

again the subtitles wont be accurate. but for beginners it will have to be very baby things

like the 3+ section on netflix

i might subtitle Gaspard et Lisa soon so people can understand

its a good resource but no subtitles exist for it

[mighty spade]

Makes sense.

[hoary lantern]

so dont jump the gun and go for movies for adults, let alone for teens

is gonna have to be cartoons for now :P

because you will end up with so many questions with answers that will lead you clueless

[mighty spade]

With my current vocab both will be slow so im not bothered but ye probably for the best. I have a lot of free time so can always do both. Will still pull a ton of words if i make notes. But yeye. I got a few things here i csn start with so i guess ill do that. Should probsbly try to strike a balance of it being comprehensible input but also something that can hold my attention. Lucky for me i do like cartoon

[hoary lantern]

yeah thats good

Miraculous Ladybug is good

[mighty spade]

Ohhhh ye i forgot about that one. I remember being recommended that in general back in high school.

[hoary lantern]

the storyline is going to shit and feels like its being made longer on purpose

but like

its repetitive enough its okay for the first few season

to get the language in right

again, ask if u got questions we are here alwayas

[mighty spade]

On that note do u know any dictionaries to use. Apps would be preferable since i only have my phone most of the day. But website is fine if need be

[hoary lantern]

le petit robert

or just safari

[mighty spade]

Is that french to english or just french

[hoary lantern]

just french

but french to english mostly you can google it

i would say its reliable enough

[mighty spade]

Ah ok

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