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zinc novaBOT Mar 23, 2024, 3:28 AM

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urban moon Mar 23, 2024, 3:45 AM

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It's talking about French dictionaries in general not a specific subset

pale brook Mar 23, 2024, 4:01 AM

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urban moon It's talking about French dictionaries in general not a specific subset

Why not de+les dictionnaires, which degenerates to des dictionaries?

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Or is it because usage de is a fixed expression?

urban moon Mar 23, 2024, 4:02 AM

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pale brook Why not de+les dictionnaires, which degenerates to des dictionaries?

Because that would imply that we're talking about a specific subset of dictionaries

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« Les gens utilisent Larousse et CNTRL. L'usage des dictionnaires (since we're talking about those two) est autorisé. »

pale brook Mar 23, 2024, 4:03 AM

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Ngl I’m still a bit confused

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If it were only these two, wouldn’t it be de ces?

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Might just be because it’s midnight lol

urban moon Mar 23, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Exactly, we can replace « des » in the case of specific things with a determiner « de ces »

pale brook Mar 23, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Hmm

urban moon Mar 23, 2024, 4:06 AM

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Il y a beaucoup de voitures – Il y a beaucoup des voitures que Michael veut
(logic being that it's « beaucoup de » + « les voitures que Michael veut »)

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you can replace that secon part with « Il y a beaucoup de ces voitures que Michael veut » by changing the definite article to a determiner and it still works

pale brook Mar 23, 2024, 4:07 AM

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Ah so it functions like beaucoup de

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I understand now

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Thanks!

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Because it’s unspecific

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