ça va et toi

[hollow silo]

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ça va et toi

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(I'm probably overthinking lol)

[rain tapir]

yeah the "et" is higher in pitch

or both "et toi" are higher in pitch

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Thank you! I appreciate your help. Would it sound bizarre to you otherwise? If so, I'd be worried about getting it wrong in other sentences too

Or maybe intonation is just part of having an accent and I don't need to worry about it much

[umbral forge]

the only way to tell if it's natural is to make a voice message for us hehe

but I think you do are overthinking

idk if you heard it but french is not a language where intonations are important

[rain tapir]

Just send a vocal of how you'd pronounce it !

Just wanna make clear that I'm not a pro of pronunciation, I don't know the phonetic system. Just a random french tryna help

[rain tapir]

It is, but we have a general intonation, even with different accents

[rain tapir]

Idk why people are OBSESSED with pronunciation in french 😭😭😭😭😭 just listen to french ppl to get how it's the most natural, but we don't care at all

It's just to make it more natural and smoother

[heavy skiff]

lmaooo dw i believe you, ||i ain't gonna go repeat this question 3x in multiple channels now||

[umbral forge]

because in some languages like english it's important and can change the meaning of the sentence

[rain tapir]

Ahahaha it's fine, it's just that people are used to ask and learn the intonation

But in french only the pronunciation is important

[heavy skiff]

That's true though. For asking questions, we can sometimes use intonation alone in English, but (it seems like) intonation is the most common way to turn indicatif into a question in French

[rain tapir]

That's why french people sound so monotone in foreign languages and it's SO HARD to learn a "singing" language (I'm learning Chinese and it's horrible)

Intonation is important mostly for questions and sarcasm, I don't think of any other really important use

[heavy skiff]

so going up on the word "et" in ça va et toi is surprising to me

[rain tapir]

The 2 possibilities I can think of

Et toi going up

Et going up

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here's how I have been saying it until now:

[rain tapir]

The second one sounds like you just ask it to be polite, you don't rly ask for any further informations on if they are doing alright ahhahaha

Yeah that's good !

[heavy skiff]

ah the obligatory pleasantries in small talk 😔

[rain tapir]

Ahahaahah yep

But 99.9999% we just say "ça va"

Or ULTIMATELY "ça va ça va"

[heavy skiff]

I completely understand btw, from my experience helping people in the English learning server for a while. pretty sure there are non-native English speakers in there that know more about English than I do

[rain tapir]

Ahahaha np

[dense vine]

en tant qu’americain je veux pas que les francais le sachent! je prefere qu’ils pensent que je suis quebecois ou peut etre d’une montagne suisse

[rain tapir]

Ahhahahah yeah yeah I understand, pronunciation is really the hardest thing when learning a language

But I think listening to natives is really the best thing, you'll get it with time