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tawdry juncoBOT
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frosty seal
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So this is called the imperative tense, in english it is as:
Don't eat it (Ne mange/mangez pas)
OR
Let's go (allons-y)

This gives instructions without using the subject

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In this case we conjugate, and remove the subject:
(Tu) ne mange pas (remove S when using this)
(Vous) ne mangez pas
(Nous) ne mageons pas

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look at both of the contexts

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one is with a friend, "Throw me the ball" so we use tu. (Lance-moi!) instead of vous, (lancez-moi). as we are with friends we use a informal imperative

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The other, is in a work setting (find me in my desk at 14h?), thus we are using the more formal imperative vous, (Retrouvez-moi) instead of (retrouve-moi)

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in english, they are the same, but in french we have to conjugate imperatives according to the context and who we are talking to

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i hope this helps

quaint wraith
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Okay, that makes sense. I felt that was the reason but didn't see a direct connection. It is purely dependent on who you are speaking to then

frosty seal
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juan do you speak spanish by chance?

quaint wraith
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yes

frosty seal
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im trying to find languages that have examples of this

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SO

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Its kinda like

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No come

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No comé

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No comed

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No comamos

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depends on who you are speaking to

quaint wraith
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Yes thats exactly right!

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Now i understand it

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So for example, would it be correct to say something like "chantons-moi la chanson" with nous right?

frosty seal
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Nous is more like "LET'S GO"

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Allons-y (Let's go there)

quaint wraith
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ahhh i think i meant chantent-moi

frosty seal
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or Chantons "La vie en rose" (Let's sing la vie en rose)

frosty seal
quaint wraith
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So if i telling a group to sing me a song

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it would just be chante-moi?

frosty seal
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if you tell a group you would use vous

quaint wraith
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or chantez-moi

frosty seal
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chantez-moi La vie en Rose

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yes

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because you are telling a group

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you would not tell a group "They sing"

quaint wraith
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okay, if its a group, you use Vous

frosty seal
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you say "Let's/you guys sing La vie en rose"

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because you are speaking at them

quaint wraith
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okay, i see what you mean, thats very clear to me now

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so many exceptions here and there can make things confusing

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Thank you very much

frosty seal
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Tu - informal, singular (REMOVE S)
Vous - formal, singular or plural (to a group of people)
Nous - including you (LET'S)

quaint wraith
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got it, ill write this down so i dont forget

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Another small question for you:

frosty seal
quaint wraith
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😐

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French is the language of exceptions i swear haha!

frosty seal
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yeah

icy mirage
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Just one thing: the -s removal applies to -er verbs and some verbs such as aller, ouvrir, cueillir.

frosty seal
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do go on with your question

frosty seal
quaint wraith
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In the example:

"Il a besoin de quelqu'un qui puisse jouer avec lui"

why can't i just say "qui **peut **jouer avec lui"?

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or like "Bien qu'il fasse chaud en ete, j'aime mieux l'hiver" I can't just use fait?

icy mirage
# frosty seal mais vaS-y... ;,)

That's because there's the pronoun y that necessitates the -s to be added to the verb.
Va le voir but vas-y.
Same with the pronoun en.
Cueille des fleurs => cueilles-en

quaint wraith
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it can't just be va-y haha

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i suppose

frosty seal
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so badly

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a-t-il mon amie

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its a shit sentence

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but

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it demonstrates two things:

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the t for a-T-il, there because a-il sounds weird

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and MON amie, despite the amie being feminie, its mon because ma amie is ludicrious

quaint wraith
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yeah, it kind of reminds me when you say "Elle eu une idee"

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it feels different to connect vowels

frosty seal
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elle a eu une idée did u mean

quaint wraith
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elle a eu sorry

frosty seal
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np

quaint wraith
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xD

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But my question was:

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In the example:

"Il a besoin de quelqu'un qui puisse jouer avec lui"

why can't i just say "qui **peut **jouer avec lui"?

or like "Bien qu'il fasse chaud en ete, j'aime mieux l'hiver" I can't just use "qu'ilfait"?

frosty seal
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its the subjunxtive

quaint wraith
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why does it have to change to puisse

frosty seal
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but that is for someone more better than i am

quaint wraith
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Okay, ill try that. regardless i appreciate all the help!

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Thank you again

ancient karma
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You’re a Spanish speaker, right? It’s the same reason why you say el agua even though it’s a feminine noun: to avoid vowel clashing

steep hamlet