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[alpine citrus]

Préférer is the verb

Préfère is a present tense conjugation

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Oh I didn’t know the whole verb was preferred

Preferer*

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Do the accents change from the verb to the present conjugation or was that just you

[alpine citrus]

They do cuz of pronunciation rules

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Sounds painful

I’m gonna ignore that cuz yeah

[alpine citrus]

Basically you can't have é in the final syllable unless it's at the very end

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But in préfère, the é from preferer wouldn’t be the last would it

Since u still have the e at the end of préfère

[alpine citrus]

E.g.
Préféré (very end)
Préfère (final syllable but not very end)

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Isn’t the E at the very end though

It’s the last letter

[alpine citrus]

That's a silent e

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Dang

[alpine citrus]

It doesn't have an accent regardless

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Oh

So it doesn’t count as a syllable?

[alpine citrus]

Depends

In poetry it does, sometimes

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Oh good lord

[alpine citrus]

But for everyday language just assume it doesn't

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Why is French t painful

Oh cool

[alpine citrus]

The rule I'm giving you assumes it isn't

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Should be fine

It’s useless to try stuff that’s just gonna confuse me as long as I understand what I’m learning in class

My only problems rn is just conjugation

[alpine citrus]

It's not that hard but I get that it's intimidating when you're already struggling

So dw too much

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They didn’t cover much conjugation in year 9 is the issue

So they did a lot of it in yr 7 and 8 which I wasn’t there for

So unless I’m talking about myself, I can forget about using the past or present tense

Actually what is the future, Ik that je voudrais is I would like

[alpine citrus]

https://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/ver1.html

[alpine citrus]

Future is the same as conditional but you use avoir as the endings instead of imparfait endings

[sweet robin]

Every verb is based on the main verb ending in -ir -er -re, not based off specific conjugations

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Uh

What

[alpine citrus]

So

You know voudrais, which is conditional

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Oh god I remember learning this

It made no sense

Yeah

[alpine citrus]

Conditional uses imparfait endings
-ais
-ais
-ait
-ions
-iez
-aient

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Oh

Ohhhhhhh

So like how you can also use J’aimerais

I would like

[alpine citrus]

Yeah

Future uses the same stem, but with avoir as the endings
-ai
-as
-a
-ons
-ez
-ont

It's kinda like reverse passé composé in a way lol

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So the future is I will

[alpine citrus]

Passé composé has avoir before, for past
Future has avoir after, for future

Mhm

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Am I allowed to swear here?

[alpine citrus]

I guess lol

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Then fuck sake

How am I supposed to remember 6 pronouns for each tense

[alpine citrus]

If you know conditional u know future

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But

I don’t know conditional

[alpine citrus]

They're the same they just have different endings

Ok

Present tense is 100% the hardest tense

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How

[alpine citrus]

The rest are mostly just based off of other tenses

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It’s just e es e ons ez ent

Isn’t it

[alpine citrus]

For -er, more or less, yeah

Not for -ir or -re

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Oh I forgot it changed between them

Spanish conjugation is so much easier istg

[alpine citrus]

-er is all regular except aller

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Hold on

You said future goes off of avoid

Avoid

[alpine citrus]

Mhm

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How does an ai ending relate to avoid

Avoid

[alpine citrus]

J'ai

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My phone hates French

[alpine citrus]

Tu as

Il a

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Oh

As long as I know ai and a I’m fine

Same as ais and ait

Well that and they

Since my school makes us say what’s on a piece of paper

For like exams

[alpine citrus]

Can you try conjugating vouloir in conditional and future tense

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You’re mean

[alpine citrus]

Lol

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Idek what vouloir is

[alpine citrus]

It's easier than u think

Vouloir is to want

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Je vouloe mourir

[alpine citrus]

Lol

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Uh okay

[alpine citrus]

You used it here

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Oh ffs

How is voudrais like I would want

[alpine citrus]

Ye

But english usually says "I would like" for the same thing

For some reason

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Well liking something and wanting something are similar

[alpine citrus]

Mhm

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If you like something you want it

If you want something you usually like it

[alpine citrus]

Anyways

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Mk

[alpine citrus]

Conditional je form of vouloir is voudrais

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Oh

[alpine citrus]

Try to get the rest, conditional and future

Je
Tu
Il
Nous
Vous
Ils

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I thought you just said the conditional

[alpine citrus]

Both

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Aw shit

[alpine citrus]

Try conditional first

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Voudrais, tu voudrais, Il voudrait, nous voudraions, vouz voudraienz, ils voudraient

Hold on

Nous voudrions, vouz voudrienz, ils voudrient

[alpine citrus]

Close

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Damn

[sweet robin]

i don't think voudrienz ends in a Z

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Oh what

[alpine citrus]

Je voudrais
tu voudrais
Il voudrait
nous voudraions
vouz voudraienz
ils voudraient

Nous voudrions
vouz voudrienz
ils voudrient

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Ohno it doesn’t

Dang

[alpine citrus]

One more try?

You almost got it all

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Wasn’t it just vouz voudrient

Oh no

Vouz wasn’t even right

[alpine citrus]

Lol

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Oh it’s an s

I thought it was a z

[alpine citrus]

Ye

Like nous

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Vous voudrienz

[alpine citrus]

No n

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Yeah idk how I got z

Oh

[alpine citrus]

Vous endings almost always end in -ez

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Yeah my school is addicted to songs

So for most conjugation they made a song like

Ai as a ons ez ent

The beat is in the night garden or smth

[alpine citrus]

So can you write all of the correct conditional conjugations out?

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Well

Maybe

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I don’t like to toot my own horn

[alpine citrus]

Wdym

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What

It’s like a saying

I was joking just forget it mb

[alpine citrus]

Ok

I just didn't get it

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Do you know what it means?

It’s kinda like uh, I don’t like to brag

Tooting your own horn, like showing off

[alpine citrus]

Yeah I just don't get why going over it again would be

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Nah my bad it wasn’t a very good joke

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Anyways what were you going to say

[digital wadi]

It’s literally the same thing wdym

[alpine citrus]

I was just asking you to rewrite it out to make sure you had it

yknow, practice

before we switch to future

[digital wadi]

An example that comes to mind is « servir » so I'll use that.
French « avoir » present conjugation: j'ai, tu as, il a, nous avons, vous avez, ils ont
« servir » in the future tense: je servirai, tu serviras, il servira, nous servirons, vous servirez, ils serviront

Spanish «haber» present conjugation: (yo) he, (tú) has, (él) ha, (nosotros) hemos, (vosotros) habéis, (ellos) han
«servir» in the future tense: (yo) serviré, (tú) servirás, (él) servirá, (nosotros) serviremos, (vosotros) serviréis, (ellos) servirán
(taking into account the accent changes because the emphasis moves to the end makes Spanish a tad harder than French)

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For haber for the present conjugations it would just be habo for yo wouldn’t it? Present yo doesn’t change, its an O on the end for anything

Nvm Spanish doesn’t matter rn

[digital wadi]

It’s an exception but otherwise the pattern holds

This pattern extends to the conditional as well since the haber in the imperfect supplies the conditional’s endings

[digital wadi]

Either way, what other issues do you still have about this?

The general idea is that the future and conditional are formed by the infinitive + avoir in the present or imperfect. The real issue is the root because for some verbs like vouloir and savoir, they aren’t

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Well I’m just bad at remembering how to conjugate

[digital wadi]

well as someone whose native language Indonesian doesn’t have any conjugations, you can do it, it just takes some time to get used to

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Indonesian doesn’t have conjugation?

I should take that for GSCEs

[digital wadi]

No

[digital wadi]

Yeah but good luck dealing with our prefix/infix/suffix situation lmao

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Well for languages I know everything except prepositions and conjugation

Wel I know everything I have been taught

[digital wadi]

Bit of a generalisation because not all languages have prepositions, conjugations, etc

but anyway, for French at least, you just have get in the habit of making sentences and conjugating on the fly

It doesn't matter if you make mistakes as long as you try first and then compare later

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Yeah

Which tense is the one with ai as a

Like je utilisai

Oh utiliserai

[digital wadi]

you have to be careful there because « j'utilisai » is a valid conjugation for the passé simple, a tense you will never use unless you're a fiction writer

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Oh

But what one is j’utiliserai

Is that I will use

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Futur simple

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yes

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Oh

Conjugation is still so confusing

So with regarder for example, there’s regarder, regardé, regardais, regarderai,

But there’s also 6 different pronouns for each

And avoir, faire, and etre are irregular?

[digital wadi]

Well not for « regarder » since that's the infinitive and « regardé » is the past participle which is usually not affected by conjugation but yes

[digital wadi]

This is why it's recommended to first master the simple present tense before moving on to the other tneses

[digital wadi]

Yes though they're not the only ones

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Been

Breh*

Isn’t to read also a weird one

Lire

[digital wadi]

-re verbs have differing conjugation patterns

it's much better to learn -er first

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What about suis from je suis

Where does the suis come from

[digital wadi]

that's être

[digital wadi]

dunno, ask Latin for that one

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Stupid Latin

Everybody should just speak English tbh so I don’t have to learn all these languages

[digital wadi]

how come we get the conjugation 'am' from the verb 'to be'? I don't know, ask proto-Germanic

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I hope I don’t ever learn why that happens

[digital wadi]

Either way, irregular verbs exist everywhere

you just have to get used to it

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Stupid irregular verbs

For some reason I can speak in Spanish a lot better than French

Like in Spanish I can hold a simple conversation but in French Idk much

[digital wadi]

Though both descend from Latin, French's accent patterns are bit less distinct than Spanish's patterns

[alpine citrus]

être was some shit like estre before
some conjugations kept the s, some kept the e
ones with an f are weirder

[digital wadi]

In French, you only put an accent on the last syllable of an utterance (a complete unit so nominal groups or clauses) but in Spanish it's a lot of more regular

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Like ferai?

[alpine citrus]

no thats faire

lol

like fut

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Oh

[alpine citrus]

but dont worry about that

[digital wadi]

passé simple moment

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Like football

Just fut?

[alpine citrus]

wat

fut is être

just a conjugation

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Oh

[alpine citrus]

not one that you'll need tho

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So it’s like football

Oh cool

I don’t think I was gonna remember that anyways

Well I’m nearly at school and then I have food tech so gonna burn down my class

Thank you for helping and hopefully my brain has remembered some of this

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When I’m back from school would you mind if I practiced a paragraph of my 150 word writing on you

[alpine citrus]

uhh

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I just need to give examples of advantages and disadvantages of technology

[alpine citrus]

probably not me specifically

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I mean it’s fine if not

[alpine citrus]

im very busy

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Alright

[digital wadi]

Ask again on a separate thread, someone might help you there