#MoistGoat5

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crimson turret
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I think you're perhaps mixing the question qui and the relative pronoun

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The relative pronoun just carries over whatever the subject is

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crimson turret
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The question pronoun is third person singular

tacit terrace
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so i would have to use context clues?

crimson turret
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I mean it'll be in the sentence

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It's just normal conjugation with qui in the middle

tacit terrace
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for example: Ils mangent. Qui est-ce que mangent?
or Elle vient la. Qui vient ici?

crimson turret
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Mange

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Qui est-ce qui mange

tacit terrace
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but if you know that the poelpe who eat are plural, why not use plural?

crimson turret
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Cuz it's the question word which is singular

tacit terrace
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ok

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well ive seen it be plural too

crimson turret
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That'd be like saying "who want to eat" in English

tacit terrace
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like in the Stromae lyric
Oui, celebrons a ceux qui ne celebrent pas, j'aimerais lever mon verre a ceux qui n'en n'ont pas

crimson turret
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That's a relative pronoun

tacit terrace
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ok

crimson turret
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Not question qui

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Very different things

tacit terrace
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so if ceux is present it is plural?

crimson turret
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No

tacit terrace
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right

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right

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thank you

digital pulsar
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"ceux" is the subject, which is plural (well technically "ceux qui ne celebrent pas" is the subject)
qui is just relaying the information

tacit terrace
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sorry i forgot about that detail

crimson turret
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With relative pronoun qui there is always a different subject in the sentence

tacit terrace
crimson turret
tacit terrace
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wait that makes no sense

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im trying to use the relative pronoun in a sentence

crimson turret
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C'est moi qui ai mangé une pizza

tacit terrace
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merci!

digital pulsar
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C'est moi qui ai mangé une pizza (subject "moi" is singular -> verb is singular)
C'est eux qui ont mangé une pizza (subject "eux" is plural -> verb is plural)
"qui" is just relaying the information, making either moi or eux subject for the verb manger. It's not singular or plural

tacit terrace
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yes, ok

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and that works for all question words, yes?

digital pulsar
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it's not a question word

crimson turret
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This isn't a question word

digital pulsar
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"qui" as a question word is grammatically unrelated

tacit terrace
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not in this case

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but the others that are both question words and relative pronouns

digital pulsar
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yes but you should consider "qui" as question word and "qui" as relative pronouns to be different words

we were talking about the relative pronoun, which is unrelated to the question word, so nothing we talked about applies to question words

tacit terrace
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yes

digital pulsar
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"lequel" can agree in number and gender for instance

tacit terrace
digital pulsar
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yes