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[wise temple]

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[queen socket]

So?

Dosnt really help does it

[tender patio]

Well, what does your dictionary say?

[queen socket]

Don’t have one…

just use it in a sentence

[woeful hound]

wordreference.com
now you have a dictionary

[wild swan]

My buddy from France told me that he uses it so much lol

Du coup is so helpful

[queen socket]

Or explain it…

[woeful hound]

when you can easily look something up in a dictionary and have been being rude to the people who help out here?
no thanks

[queen socket]

Not being rude I don’t get why I have to search up everything

It’s better when someone explains stuff to me

[woeful hound]

Exhibit A: rudeness

[queen socket]

Ain’t no why it means so

[queen socket]

Mk screanshot everything why don’t you

It’s not like I’m going to delete them

[woeful hound]

Anywho, good luck finding your answers

[queen socket]

I’d rather get advice from a native or a skilled french person not from a crappy website

[woeful hound]

if you're not willing to do the work yourself, you don't deserve our help
and calling wordreference a crappy website is patently comedic

goodbye

[queen socket]

Wdym not do the work myself I’ve literally self trained myself for the past 8 months

I ask one simple thing and I can’t even get an explanation but I’m brought to a website that doesn’t explain it properly

@woeful hound see what I mean

note for anyone looking at recent chats I still don’t know

[untold totem]

It literally gives you the answer on wordref

[untold totem]

Writing stuff with improper formatting and grammar, let alone at all, into a translator is more likely to give you improper info than not

I don't know why you're trusting a translator, but when we give you a dictionary with the correct definition, you say "no it's definitely wrong"

[queen socket]

Well what does it say then 😭

[untold totem]

What does what say

[queen socket]

The sentence

[untold totem]

.

[queen socket]

Where on earth would so fit in there

[untold totem]

This?

[queen socket]

Yh that

[untold totem]

"I have never heard « du coup » before that I joined the server"

[queen socket]

Yes I got the sentence of this guy on this discord

It makes sense right?

Oh 💀

I didnt even read the sentence

Anyway

[untold totem]

It's awkward, "avant de rejoindre ce serveur" would work, and you'd need quotes around du coup to format it correctly

This is why it's important to give context

[queen socket]

So where would sentences with du coup work

Could I say du coup je joue ce jeu

[untold totem]

joue à

Sure, I guess

[queen socket]

Why is it joue à

[untold totem]

Cuz jouer à + jeu

Jouer + rôle

Jouer de + instrument

[queen socket]

Don’t you use joue(r)à with sports though

Plus rôle hmmmm

So when you say I play this game you have to use à

But I thought alors ment so

And si

I think si is for adjectives though

[untold totem]

Faire de + sport

[queen socket]

That’s I do

[untold totem]

But sports are games so you can use jouer à it just sounds less commital

[untold totem]

"I do basketball" ?????

[queen socket]

Je joue au basket

[untold totem]

Je fais du basket

[queen socket]

Je fais de la natation

[untold totem]

De la

[queen socket]

You don’t do basket ball you play it though

[untold totem]

Yes

That's my point

[queen socket]

Is this correct then

[untold totem]

Yeah

[queen socket]

Wouldn’t it be jouer though

Or is this an exception

[untold totem]

You can use both, like I said, depending on how serious it is

[queen socket]

I’ve never heard do basketball but alr

[queen socket]

I don’t think I’m gonna remember that

Ok the bottom message is good

The actual playing is jouer

Thanks

donc on a tout raté

Du coup , on a tout raté

Alors , on a tout raté

[untold totem]

Mhm

[queen socket]

Do they all work?

[untold totem]

Yeah

[queen socket]

Alors is more like "well"

Donc is "therefore"

And "du coup" is so

Is this correct?

[untold totem]

I mean trying to find 1:1 translations won't work amazingly

But close enough

[queen socket]

Alr thanks for your help bro

All you had to do it peacefully explain it

And you did that

[untold totem]

Uh

[queen socket]

The other guy could of made it clearer and gave example sentences

[untold totem]

I mean I have you way more leeway than most as you were quite rude & not accepting any of the info they were giving you

[queen socket]

Not rlly rude tbh

[untold totem]

Straight up saying "no that's wrong" to a correct definition

100% rude in my books but eh

[queen socket]

I was looking at the translater lol it said of it lol

Ik what your gonna say

[untold totem]

Yes because translators can't magically guess the correct formatting

Or the context

[queen socket]

Yes there we go 🎉

True

I’m quite tired and I just wanted to get it out the way quite

[untold totem]

You also said "doesn't help does it" to someone else giving you more definitions

So yeah, no one knew how to help you and they were incredibly discouraged

[queen socket]

Yes bc they don’t really mean "so" do they

And I had no clue what it ment at the time

[queen socket]

You did

[untold totem]

I did not know

[untold totem]

Translations are not 1:1, but all of those can be translated as "so" yes

[queen socket]

I mean cmon let’s be honest

No knowing what the word means I’m not going to remember any of that

[untold totem]

Ok

That's why we give you dictionaries

[queen socket]

Mhm ok

Thanks for you your help

[untold totem]

So you don't have to remember

[queen socket]

Alr